User talk:188.162.185.144

November 2023
Hello, I'm Framawiki. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Joel Engel (composer)—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Thanks, Framawiki (please notify me when you reply) 16:10, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Joel Engel (composer). Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Shadow311 (talk) 16:13, 29 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, I'm sorry that I didn't explain my edits right away in the description, it's just that this option is more correct, I would even say the only correct one, read his biography, and for now I'll deal with authoritative sources for the article. 188.162.185.144 (talk) 16:18, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Just piping in to say I don't think this is a case of vandalism. Both options are true in a sense, there was no independent Ukraine at time he was alive, but he was from that area of the Russian Empire. I have written a lot of wiki bios of Jewish musicians from this general time & place and I usually say Russian or Russian-born (if they emigrated) in the opening sentence of the article and then in the first sentence of the bio, I usually give the governorate and say (presently in Ukraine). For the categories I don't think either is wrong but maybe it could have both Ukrainian (territorially) and Russian (nationality) coexisting if it's causing edit warring. Dan Carkner (talk) 20:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)