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Kozar & Kazarig
The point is not that the two names are identical, but that the name Kazarig/Kotzarig/etc is clearly derived from or influenced by the older name Kozar (which is listed as a variant in the Kazarig article). Furthermore, Kozar is a brief stub.

As such the two articles are an example of content forking (see WP:Fork).

As for "reliable sources" – you have deleted some in your reversions. This is unacceptable under Wikipedia policy. Please restore them asap.

Likewise, there is also an "academic consensus" for a link between the mythical Kozar of antiquity and the equally mythical Kazarig of medieval times. There are many similar examples of founding myths being "updated" by their adherents. Grant &#124;  Talk  05:29, 7 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Kozar plainly does not meet the criteria for Criteria for speedy deletion, so I have removed the template and reinstated some of my previous edits


 * Regarding Kazarig and Kazarig – many of your recent edits have deleted valid material with references.


 * Both (1) the removal of mentions of these names' connections to Turkic languages/peoples (such as the Khazars) as well as the (2) insistence on bogus, ahistorical constructs like "Avar-Hun" and "Hunno-Bulgar" are breaches of WP:NPOV


 * I have looked but can find no support whatsoever in reliable sources for the following:
 * "The first Kazarig was the son of Ernakh whose Onogurs relocated in 463 seizing the lands of the Akatziroi after whom he named his son Kazarig."


 * "The Kozarigs took their name from the Avar-Hun tribes they ruled in the Sarmatian Steppe."


 * Or the suggestion that Kazarig/Kotzarig was "the name of a dynasty of Hunno-Bulgar rulers in the Land of Kedar. The first Khazarig was, according to Sandilch, a son of Ernakh, after whom the Kozarigur Bulgar-Huns were named. Ernakh's other son was Utig after whom Sandilch's own Utigur Bulgar-Huns were named."


 * "Bulgarios should be identified with Sandilch."


 * "Cozarigs under Alcek" (← Alcek was a Bulgar not a "Cozarig".)


 * "The name is later given by Nikephoros I of Constantinople to one of the "sons" of Khagan Kubrat who, following a dispute with his brother Batbayan, established his rule in Bolghar." (← Why "son"? More importantly, the sons of Kubrat did include a Kotrug, but that is clearly a different name.)


 * "Menumorut is said to have been ruling the Cozarigs in Hungary, but after his time the term Khazar won in popularity."


 * The correct course of action if a passage is unreferenced is a "citation needed" tag. However, in the above cases cases, there are no reliable sources that I can find for many of the assertions and WP:Fringe theories you have made/reinstated – or there is no demonstrable link between them and the subject of an article. For example:


 * Also the connection of the following to the subject of the article is unclear or non-existent: "The report of Bar Hebraeus then refers mainly to events during Zabergan's rule of the Kutrigurs immediately following Sinnion and the dominance of the Avar conquerer Kandik. The Eurasian Avars arrived in 557. Tiberius II Constantine was acting for Justin at the time. The acquisition of Dacia was not immediate and was part of Maurice's Balkan campaigns where Zabergan was recruited into Empire service.


 * The above conduct constitutes Disruptive editing. ← I urge you to read this article and abide by it.


 * Grant &#124;  Talk  12:25, 8 October 2017 (UTC)