User talk:190.213.186.65

April 2022
Hello, I'm PAVLOV. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Phil Ochs—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. PAVLOV (talk) 07:33, 10 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, PAVLOV. The article is incorrect about which Dylan song Ochs criticised. It was not One of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later), it was Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window. Here is the relevant excerpt from the cited book:
 * Phil learned as much one evening after he, Dylan, and a host of others performed at a “Sing In for Peace” at Carnegie Hall. Dylan had a new song—“Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window?”—that he wanted to play for Phil and David Blue. Dylan was especially proud of the number, calling it “the one I’ve been trying to do for years.” After hearing the song, Blue knew better than to offer anything but an unqualified endorsement, but Phil volunteered a straightforward, honest appraisal.
 * “It’s okay,” he said.
 * “What do you mean?” Dylan challenged Phil, instantly angry at him. “Listen to it again.”
 * Phil listened as Dylan ran through the song a second time, but another hearing did not alter his initial reaction.
 * “It’s okay,” he told Dylan, “but it’s not going to be a hit.”
 * Dylan went through the ceiling. “You’re crazy, man,” he raged. “It’s a great song. You only know protest, that’s all.”
 * Dylan fumed, unable to accept Phil’s failure to see the song’s hit potential. A limousine arrived to take Dylan, Phil, and others to an uptown club. It had only gone a few blocks up Sixth Avenue when Dylan ordered the driver to pull over. When the limo had pulled up to the curb, Dylan demanded that Phil get out of the car. Phil thought Dylan was joking.
 * “Get out, Ochs,” Dylan said a second time, making certain that Phil did not misunderstand him. As Phil stepped from the limousine, Dylan delivered his final blows. “You’re not a folksinger,” he snarled. “You’re a journalist.”
 * Phil was on the mark with his assessment of the song’s commercial potential. “Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window?” went nowhere when it was released as a single a short time later. Dylan, not surprisingly, had the final say, not only to Phil, but to all the people he felt were putting him down or holding him back, when he issued “Positively Fourth Street,” one of the most vitriolic attacks ever put on record. The times were indeed a-changin’.
 * On the basis of the above, I've changed it back. All the best! No hat, no problem (talk) 00:13, 18 April 2022 (UTC)