User talk:193.191.221.220

COI
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Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above Jimfbleak - talk to me?  16:08, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Answer
I don't work for the organisation and wasn't paid or pushed to create this awful draft

reply
Thanks for your message on my talk page. Experience shows that when an article is created from scratch by a new user who has make no other edits, they are likely to be paid editors. You have said that in this case you have have no COI, so I've assumed good faith and struck the first sentence of my comments above. The rest of the guidance still applies, and I have doubts whether the company has sufficient notability as defined in the link above to merit an article distinct from the current page Jimfbleak - talk to me?  15:37, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

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I'm using their service (like 10 million people) and had simply created the page as their case was something unusual, yet there was nothing on Wikipedia.

I an confirm it has (currently) no merit for a distinct article from the main one. The page didn't exist back then, I had created the draft because their social media changes implied a huge upcoming announcement. Currently, all "news sources" talking about this are from a 2-3 day period matching with this announcement.

I had created the page under the assomption that they would encompass both services... and I was wrong as it is now established they are technically two different companies using the "same brand". Unless there is on Wikipedia a consensus about "related companies", the proposed page should be a part of the actual page.

The problem is that what they done is something huge for the community, but for someone outside, it's just a third-party service with a grey area legal status, and I doubt many truly-independant sources talked about this... I doubt every user of every video game ever deserves his own wikipedia page :) On the other hand, for Wikipedia, the new project is probably a notable fact as it was talked about by 4-5 websites in 2 days, but it is heavily based on their previous services 193.191.221.220 (talk) 08:10, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

I've replied
Not sure if you noticed, but I've replied to your reply at Talk:Hypixel. Sorry for not informing you (like more than a month) earlier. Huaqin (talk) 14:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)