User talk:1Like2BeAnonymous

Question about categories
Got your welcome message; thanks. I do have a question, which is perhaps answered somewhere in a FAQ but frankly I don't have the inclination to go rooting around to find. It's about categories: are categories added manually or automatically (or both)? And do you use the "category" whatever-you-call-it (tag?) in an article to assign that article to a category? And if you do, does the system automagically add that article to the category, or does that need to be done by hand? ThanksILike2BeAnonymous 04:15, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * They are added by editing the article and putting a link to that category in it (usually at the bottom). That will make the article become a "member" of the category.  If you want to add an article to the "Musical performance techniques" category, you would put "  " in the article.  You can read more about categories and how to use them in Category.  One other thing, if you wanted to put Mike Sodrel in Category:U.S. Representatives from Indiana, you could just put  in his article.  However, that would cause his entry in the category to appear in the M's, when you would probably want it to appear in the S'es.  Sometimes, to insure proper sorting, you would also put the "sort key" in the category link, like  .  I hope this helps.  --rogerd 13:35, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Chinrest
Yes, I like the way the picture made it look. The chinrest clamp picture is cool, too, don't you think? I thought of doing one with that, too, but all I have is a cutsie one...in the shape of a violin, so I decided not to. Yes, it is a picture of my own chinrest! I'm supposing you play?

I think I'm going to change the article to be more precise...A Guarneri chinrest is secured at the center of the instrument, but the player's chin or jaw is more to the left of the violin than in a Flesch model. So, you were right, and I'll edit accordingly. I'm thinking about adding something about the gel rest (which I think is disgusting, don't you?...very POV, but oh well.)

Yeah, I love violinist's "hickeys"...anything that makes me musical makes me happy! Thanks for your careful editing here. I think we can work together to make this a great article! Thanks again!-- Violin  G  irl ♪ 21:44, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Double bass
It's called a double bass because it's twice as big (and twice as low) as the bass instrument of the string family, which is the cello. That's reflected in the text I wrote (which is the way the article reads now); how better can it be put, and what is your suggestion? Badagnani 09:25, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I think you are right: the direct translation of "contrabasso" is "contrabass," which is one of the English synonyms for the instrument. But the question is, what does the prefix "contra-" mean? I think it comes from Latin, and in Spanish it means "against." Same as the English "counter-" (as in "counterclockwise"). So you're correct in that "contrabasso" wouldn't literally mean "double bass"; "double" in Italian is "doppio" ("doble" in Spanish). But "against bass" doesn't make sense in English. I think "contra-" might have other, similar meanings in Italian as well, and in this context "contra-" might mean something more like "opposite." Interestingly, a "countertenor" voice is an octave HIGHER than a tenor. Badagnani 07:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

As per my understanding, "contra" simply means an extreme extension of the range downward from the typical range. For examply, a contralto can sing male parts, there is a contrabasson, and also a contrabass saxaphone and a contrabass tuba. Don't confuse counter with contra, they are different things hear (at least, I assume it!) Kntrabssi 19:09, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Concerning the section on the naming of the bass, the tuning of the instrument doesn't really belong there. There is already a section for tuning, and thus, I have simply removed that portion of it. Kntrabssi 19:04, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

RE: Nuke Polkacide?
OK, I give up; why do you want the Polkacide article to be deleted? Sheesh, I don't think it was more than 2 minutes after I saved the goddamn thing that your tag appeared. Care to explain why? (I created it as a stub for others to expand on.) --ILike2BeAnonymous 05:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I tagged it for deletion because it is vanity about a non-notable band. See the AFD nomination for more details. -- King of Hearts | (talk) 05:20, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, you say the reason for deletion is that it is "vanity about a non-notable band". This leaves the question, who determines this&mdash;and how? Can you specifically say why you believe Polkacide is non-notable? I'd say, judging by the other articles here (such as tons of articles about fictional characters in questionably-important works like The Simpsons, etc.) that this band is a lot more "notable".
 * I am familiar with the band, though not a member, friend or fan, and I believe that they are significant at least within their region (S.F. Bay Area) and therefore worthy of mention here.
 * I look forward to hearing your further explanations. --ILike2BeAnonymous 05:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The article just doesn't say what makes the band different from others. If you can find an accomplishment that meets WP:MUSIC, it might not be deleted. -- King of Hearts | (talk) 05:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Strings (music)
Yes, I'll fill them in as soon as I'll find them out %) These gauges come from either strings packages or manufacturer's sites, but usually you have to search hard to find the detailed list and not only first-last string. For example, see As the majority of guitar strings is produced in US, or licensed by a manufacturer in US, to my best knowledge, at least here, in Russia, all string gauges are measured in inch thousandths. --GreyCat 08:50, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Holocaust
The current Holocaust article is very poor and I am working on a new draft article here. Your comments on my Talk page are welcome. Adam 07:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Roma People

 * However, in the "Rejection" section which you just recently edited, it says:

The German name Zigeuner is often thought through popular etymology to derive from Ziehende Gauner, which means 'travelling thieves' - or via the Hungarian Cigany from their word "szegeny" meaning "poor". (By which I assume you mean that "cigany" is not derived from "szegeny".) You see the problem? Since you created the contradiction (I'm guessing inadvertently), would you be so kind as to fix it? I don't want to mess with this myself, since I'm not an expert on this matter by any means. Thanks. --ILike2BeAnonymous 00:59, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look and fix it. BTW, I didnt post the Ziehende Gauner part, only tacked on the szegeny theory.  (ZG is not only overtly offensive but also oddly stilted German)

Istvan 01:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong or conflicting in that section. The Ziehende Gauner theory is not mine, but it is someone's, and therefore belongs in the section (even though I think its wrong) I have reworded the sentence for clarification - does it work now? Istvan 04:51, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I did not include my opinion on the validity of the ZG or szegény theories b/c they arent encyclopaedic. Perhaps in a talk section, but certainly not in an article section.Istvan 20:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism on Jimi Hendrix
I've been watching the Jimi Hendrix page as well and there's substantial (but not uncontrollable) vandalism going on there. I see you've reverted a lot of the vandalisms. I've been posting on the talk pages of the IP addresses of the vandals and keeping track of their IPs. This way if one IP keeps vandalizing the page he/she could be banned. For instance, the guy that keeps adding the reference to Hendrix having sex on the auditorium has added that multiple times. DrIdiot 01:40, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Date formatting
I've already mentioned this on Talk:Jimi Hendrix, but it makes absolutely no difference how linked dates are formatted in wikisource since you can force all dates into whatever format you like in your preferences. It's a waste of an edit for you to keep flipping them around. Microtonal 19:45, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

El Camino
Yeah, no luck there. Apparently they've put up signs and new bells along the route, but it's not clear if it's been done on that alignment. Do you live in the area, and could possibly see if anything is on those routes? --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates! ) 04:20, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * It seems there could be a decent article on the subject. Certainly it would be better than bolding it with no link. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates! ) 06:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Roma people delete
Hi ILike2BeAnonymous, I see you deleted the following sentence from the article about Roma People:
 * In Denmark there was a lot of debate because the muncipal of Helsingør had made a special Roma class at it's public schools, where all Romans were put. The classes were abandoned because it was found to be discriminating and the Romans were put in normal classes.

You argued that it was original research, but I don't see why you have that opinion. Could you perhaps enlighten me about your motivation for removing it? -- Snailwalker | talk 20:54, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, the "original research" sentence was the other sentence I removed, so that was my mistake. Yours was just plain badly written (and in non-idiomatic English), plus unsourced so far as I can tell. If you can find a reference for it, it can go back in, but will have to be re-written (it's obviously written by a non-native English speaker). --ILike2BeAnonymous 23:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Well I have a reference in Danish from the Danish Broadcasting Corporation (it is also placed on the page in the references section)

Clapping between movements
I clap between movements; however, I am the only one sitting in the theatre, and the musicians are recorded. Because no one else is there, no one dissaproves of my clapping. In real performances, though, I sometimes clap between movements, albeit at a subdued level. I am supported by the others who do likewise, fearfully.

Have you ever defied the prim tastes of concertgoers by clapping? Rintrah 14:13, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Laurie Anderson
Unfortunately, I have to side with the editor who removed descriptive terms like "stirring" from the Laurie Anderson article. Yes, it makes the article somewhat bland but unfortunately those are the rules. To use terms like that would be a violation of WP:NPOV because it indicates a point of view. The way to get around this is to find a quotation from a reviewer and include it (making sure to properly cite the source, of course). 23skidoo 14:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, thanks for pointing out the Jimi Hendrix POV. I will remove them at first opportunity. I'm sorry if you think this is bullshit but it is the rules that have been set out by the creators of Wikipedia. If you feel it's bullshit you are more than welcome to lobby for policy change. Please read WP:NPOV. 23skidoo 20:48, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi ILike2BeAnonymous. I think you mistook my curt edit summary for something akin to a hand in your face accompanied by a "oh no she di'int".  This is not the case.  I agree with you 100% that the majority of the articles at Wikipedia are very clinical and are not very fun to read.  But, the articles here have to conform to a neutral tone .... it's an encyclopedia not an editorial.  I should have explained the reasons behind my edits more thoroughly.  Sorry.  Well, that said, I hope this hasn't soured you as an editor and that you will stick around for a while.  [[Image:Monkeyman.png]]Monkeyman(talk) 02:03, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

83.19.205.78 15:22, 19 March 2006 (UTC)Don't forget to read the rules before you put unverifiable pictures into articles. Upholding the rules is editing. Breaking the rules or making up your own is vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.19.205.78 (talk • contribs)
 * The comment above was put here (in the wrong place) by a shithead who's obsessed about a picture they don't like in the article on Roma people. --ILike2BeAnonymous 21:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * IL, I understand your frustration with that user, but I notice that you've gone and called him (her?) a shithead in several places on Wikipedia. That's not kosher -- please refrain from that kind of thing. Take care. --Improv 16:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Regarding vandals on Roma
I'm keeping an eye on the article, and eventually I'm sure the vandals will lose interest and cut it out. I can always semi-protect the article for awhile too. There is presently a wide dislike of using this for too long (which I disagree with the principles behind, but will abide by), but it can at least be a tool to hold off the determined vandals for awhile. In the meantime, please try to keep a cool head, try to avoid insulting anyone, and drop me another note if anything urgent needs to be addressed. --Improv 13:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

WP:CIVIL
Please do not leave messages like this one. Please try and keep a cool head, despite comments people may make against you. Personal attacks and disruptive comments will only escalate a situation; please keep calm and action can be taken against the other parties if necessary. Your involvement in attacking back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors, and lead to general bad feeling. Please try and be civil. Thanks! (CJ)   ×Meegs 19:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * If you took the above comment as advice, then take this as a warning: WP:CIVILITY and WP:NPA are official policies and punishable with blocks and bans. Calling people pussies and shitheads in bold text (three more recent examples:   ) is not productive under any conditions. Do not do it. ×Meegs 20:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

On User 84.40.137.140
I have blocked them for a week. I don't believe that current policy makes it easy to block IPs indefinitely, because they eventually end up inconveniencing other prospective users in most cases. If they keep it up when the block expires, let me know and I'll block them again. There never is a victory against this kind of vandal -- one side eventually is just worn down and leaves. On insulting people, it certainly is very human, but it is also not very productive, and not accepted by our community, even when the people you're insulting are destructive vandals. --Improv 20:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Why be nice to vandals?
I don't think the mentality is "let's be nice to them and they'll go away," but rather that vandals are usually looking to provoke a reaction and giving them one often encourages them further. A message that let's them know that their vandalism was innapropriate and that it has been spotted and reverted after mere seconds, as will any vandalism they add, seems to be most effecting in detering vandals. I personally feel it acceptable to tolerate one or two cases of vandalism from newbies (as in the case you mentioned), as they are usually just testing, seeing whether anyone really can edit the encyclopedia. Leaving them an insulting and "uncivil" message will then do nothing but discourage them from contributing positively to Wikipedia. If they continue to vandalize, they will then be warned that such behavior will result in their being blocked. I, too, am very annoyed and disgusted by the crap that vandals add to pages, but cussing them out about it makes us no better than they are. You might want to check out Do not insult the vandals. I don't feel the guideline applies in every situation, but it does tend to be a decent general rule of thumb. AmiDaniel (Talk) 22:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

On another note, when dealing with anonymous users it's very possible that an unintended user may receive your "uncivil comment" and might feel insulted or annoyed by you--might even refer to you as a "vandal." I personally am against anonymous editing, but so long as we still have shared IP users, it's essential to consider that your remarks may be received by the wrong person. AmiDaniel (Talk) 22:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Fine, doesn't bother me in the least. We're talking about situations, for the most part, like schools that have a shared IP address and maybe Internet cafes. So just consider it a form of collective punishment. There's a chance the wrongly-offended person knows the vandal and might get them to stop. Normally, I'm against the idea of collective punishment in the real world (for a particularly egregious example, the treatment of the Palestinians by the Israelis), but in this context, the "virtual" world, I think the bad effects are inconseqential by comparison. So what if a few people get offended? Get over it. --ILike2BeAnonymous 22:55, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


 * AOL IPs are actually often shared by thousands of users (which one could easily say is their punishment for using AOL lol jk). It's already bad enough when they come to Wikipedia for the first time and immediately see this, but it's much worse if their first experience on Wikipedia is having someone call them shithead, pussie, and being told to stop "adding their racist crap." Imagine if you were told that the first time you ever logged on to Wikipedia? I doubt you'd come back. I personally don't feel it appropriate to punish people for the acts of others because they're using the same IP as a vandal, just as I wouldn't send someone in the real world to prison for having the same name as a "terrorist". Therefore, it's always best to just assume good faith and be civil. AmiDaniel (Talk) 23:09, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I realy don't understand
I don't think that my game is using a pop genre music. I consider the style of the music played in the game is a classic one and it doesn't have any relation with modern music. I need some help in identifing the real style. --Locke 20:09, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the advices. I'm a novice one on the wikipedia's english version and I want to make this article bigger. I understand what you wanted to say about the pop music genre of the game's music. Where can I found something about the egypt violins?
 * Ok, you got me, I don't speak englisjh very well. You told me to be directly. Can you tell me which artist plays music like this or where can i find such music that are playing Egyptian violins: http://www.ridgeon-network.co.uk/lara/sounds/tr4%20theme.zip.

Grammar
I must admit, I've never met anyone who gets so worked up -- nay, insulting and uncivil -- over grammar. Grammar. Just take a step back, pause, and reflect on the fact that you lost your cool in a debate over the singular they. So, my first piece of advice: chill. Second piece of advice: ask yourself if you want to be the kind of person who gets angry over grammar. Angry over grammar that's not permissive enough for your liking.

And pardon me for being flippant, but saying that there's a serious debate among grammarians over whether "they" may be properly used in the singular form is like saying there's a serious debate among scientists over creationism. Well, yes, granted there's a debate, but it's confined to the fringes. No one denies that "they" is used colloquially in the singular, but ask any experienced writer, and they'll tell you that the professional English appropriate for Wikipedia (as opposed to the fiction writing your article cites) has to (or, at least, ought to) follow stricter rules than slang, like, you know, number agreement. And you can jump up and down and call me names until you're purple, but the singular "candidate" does not agree with the plurual "they," and it was completely wrong for you to change my writing to something less correct than it was, and then, rather than admit your mistake, get unbelievably self-righteous about it.

As a postscript, granted there's no authoritative guide to grammar, but if you took a survey of English teachers, writers, journalists, etc., $100 says 4 out of 5 will point you to S%W. That doesn't make it the Bible, but it does make it the referee.