User talk:2001:56A:FE18:2400:9CD5:2667:4C14:1805

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Please read wp:not wp:policy wp:soap and wp:point. Also wp:agfmeans you do not get banned or even reported until your behaviour becomes wp:tenditious. Slatersteven (talk) 16:58, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Nah this is a lot of nonsense for a self evidently incorrect claim. Like you contradicting me for correcting someone calling the sky green. Just absurd. 2001:56A:FE18:2400:9CD5:2667:4C14:1805 (talk) 17:12, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No, and the reason why is that why does your "facts" override mine. To illustrate the secessionists themselves said "Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner–stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery — subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition." and "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery", I could provide more quotes where they (at the time) said the issue was slavery. Slatersteven (talk) 17:18, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * So I guess you’re just making the claim that morality is objective then? Can you prove that? I feel like you’re misunderstanding me and trying to make a simultaneous ad hominem and straw man argument to assert that I support slavery in some way. I absolutely do not. I just don’t think any claim that can’t be reasonably “proven” can be said to be “true.”
 * in response to all your suggestions of reading rules:
 * Ignore all rules 2001:56A:FE18:2400:9CD5:2667:4C14:1805 (talk) 17:38, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry the thread was about is it true that the ACW was about slavery. And if you are claiming that slavery is not immoral (or objectively wrong), I am out of here. Slatersteven (talk) 17:45, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No I’m just trying to make a distinction between subjective and objective morality, of course slavery is immoral in my opinion. But it’d be foolish not to acknowledge some framework by which other humans hold differing opinions. The thread was NOT about whether the ACW was about slavery, that historical fact was never in question. The only ‘fact’ in question is the assertion ‘It is pseudohistorical to call slavery just/heroic’, as these aren’t really historical notions at all, they’re pseudo-philosophical if anything. 2001:56A:FE18:2400:9CD5:2667:4C14:1805 (talk) 17:49, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Please also read WP:NOTDUMB. Slatersteven (talk) 17:10, 7 July 2023 (UTC)