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Lake Cerknica
Hello. Can you add also a source for the interesting fact you added to the article? I didn't know about this one before. Thanks. --Tone 23:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Could you help

 * Could you contribute with your opinion here? talk chaonians.ThankouMegistias (talk) 10:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I have removed Illyrian emphasis from the Chaonian issue in the past under my previous account. This edit summary summarizes my views at the time: "Hellenic view more prevalent". By which I meant more sources view them as having been a Greek tribe. Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 20:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The problems involved in cataloging ancient peoples when the evidence is incomplete are formidable. Greek or not, the Chaones may have been partly Illyricized (?). Maybe they were partly mixed, hard to say for certain at this date. For an example of modern ethnic mixing and language mixing (languages belonging to different language branches mixing) see Qaratay. If your opposition has academic sources arguing that the Chaones were Illyrians or Hellenized Illyrians then these views should be mentioned in the article as well. Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 20:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * They don't but i ll probably find some variance on the issue rather then them cause i go through many books and they bring unreliable stuff .Megistias (talk) 08:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Illyrian languages
Since you seem to be knowledgeable on the issue i ll ask you.This has been my greatest question since most of the illyrians subjects are usually spammed.neutral secondary sources on Illyrian linguistics .What books should i get and what should i read.Its like nothing exists or its buried amidst spam.


 * I'm also interested in compiling a bibliography and locating as many as I can in libraries or on the internet. The internet does not have much; libraries here in Los Angeles don't have much, nor do bookstores. Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 09:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * So the issue doesn't spark enough interest-apart from pelasgomaniac albanians- from the scientific community or is there simply too little data known about the languages? Megistias (talk) 09:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I think most who get into paleo-linguistics are attracted to attested languages such as Hittite for example. There is a vast body of wonderful work published about Hittite. With Thracian or Illyrian, there is so little data it has become fertile breeding ground for nationalists, fantasists, and linguists playing with their building blocks. Mario Alinei: Thracian was a type of Proto-Slavic language and the Slavs never invaded Europe they were there all along (an imbecile theory only Alinei and Slavic fantasists believe); another says it was a type of Baltic language; another says it was a type of Albanian language; another thinks it branched off from Greco-Macedonian, or Phrygian, or the Burushaski language, etc. Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 09:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * so no serious bibliography .Megistias (talk) 09:32, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I want to compile one eventually. You guys will find out about it if I do. I will look at Wilkes' bibliography when I check out his book again. Wilkes and Hoddinott's books are both concerned with history and archaeology, dealing with linguistics only in passing. Hoddinott barely mentions anything about the Thracian language, his work is hardcore archaeology. Hoddinott's bibliography is no good for Thracian language but Wilkes will be pretty useful for Illyrian languages. Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 09:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry for jumping in... Croatian authors Katičić and Suić made a lot of contribution to agenda that Megistias is interested in, it seems they are usually quoted by other authors like Wilkes and the others, it would be nice to know what are sources used by Wilkes, if these 2 guys (or one of them) are noted I would like to know. Anyway when I get some free time I can dig out their works, it can be very helpful. Zenanarh (talk) 18:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello i added thracians names and celtic names and sourced them from Wilkes but i have yet to check out the proper Illyrian ones there have been vandalisms.Megistias (talk) 13:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * These are the remaining wilkes material not yet impemented in the article on some illyrian/thracian/celtic names names WilkesMegistias (talk) 13:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have seen your interest in the sources about the Illyrian language. I have made an editing on the Illyrian language classification based on others works but the sources are alvaiable in the internet. Please feel free to make any comment on that issue. Regards Aigest (talk) 07:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The sources you used are available on the internet? I think you named your sources when you edited the article. I haven't been able to read all the changes, but from what I read it looks like you added the Satem-arguments that were not well-represented in the article. It's good to see that finally someone came and added more to the artcle. When I have time I will try to improve the article some more and check everything. 2007 account (talk) 05:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, as you noticed Mr. Wilkes often does not cite his sources or makes contradictory statements. I noticed some contradictions in Wilkes. I could not find the specialized publications he cites in his bibliography. It is the responsibility of people like Wilkes to write as precisely as they can, after all, if he is writing a book on the subject, he might as well have been more precise. 2007 account (talk) 08:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * All the sources I have used in Centum vs. Satem are alvaiable at books.google.com (including page numbers). In the meantime I have added other sources in the language affinity. I will add some others regarding the Messapic hypothesis and I also think to expand the article on different topics as soon as I will have more spare time:) Regards Aigest (talk) 15:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Illyrian Gods

 * Do you know anything on this Issue? illyrian gods

talk regarding sourceMegistias (talk) 18:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Offhand I only recognize some like Korrotos as genuine. Mikon looks wrong, because Albanian mik (friend) is from Latin amicus. Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Bardyllis

 * Hey do you know how he is attested in latin texts? Bardyllis i added the Greek ones and the toning of the name is in the "Ba" and in the "rdy"Megistias (talk) 15:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * read your answer,i though so too,also i added the latin version by Cicero.Cicero calls him "Bardullis Illyrius".Megistias (talk) 21:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Lisa. Your user page was queried here: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:Lisa_the_Sociopath. I don't think anything will come of it, but I thought you should be informed. Best, Neıl ☎ 15:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Just to reassure you, Lisa - someone queried your user page, I took a look and said it was fine. You are in no danger whatsoever of getting banned (or blocked, warned, shouted at, talked to sternly, whatever). I just thought you should be made aware it had been brought up - you are fine using your user page in the manner you have been. Happy editing! Neıl ☎ 01:49, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Lisa, excuse me, what is going on with your user page today? Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It is La Festa Capricciosa. I am playing with some elements that comprised my earliest phase in Wikipedia juxtaposed to my later phases. Anyway, I had some freetime :) And i assure you my friends, I was Dracula but I'm just fine now, I'll explain later Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 15:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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 * BJBot? I could use one of those. Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 15:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I proposed it if i was wrong i am sorry.Megistias (talk) 21:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I am against it because eventually something like this will be in Wikipedia, if not in Wiktionary. Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 15:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You think that eventually the article will grow to such a degree that we will have to have separate from Illyrian languages?Megistias (talk) 13:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

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