User talk:216.54.105.125

Wikipedia is about, not for
Follow-up to what I wrote at TeaHouse. The article does not belong to Operation Smile. It is about Operation Smile. The better path is to learn how to amend Wikipedia content and propose that content change at the Talk page of the article. If you want to see an example of what a person does not want on the Wikipedia page about them, but has no ability to delete or edit, see Robert Kraft, 2019 solicitation charge. David notMD (talk) 16:04, 26 February 2019 (UTC)


 * If you are an unpaid intern, you must comply with the paid editing policy anyway; you don't have to be paid in cash money to need to comply. Being an intern is treated no differently than being a paid employee. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 16:09, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

I am happy to comply with whatever policies Wikipedia puts forth when it comes to editing...conflict of interest and all. At the same time, Wikipedia also says "ignore all rules" at some points, so it all gets very confusing when trying to figure out how this works. But I am interested to know whether I can operationsmile.org as a reference or not....? 216.54.105.125 (talk) 16:19, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * "Ignore all rules" only applies when there is a benefit to the project in doing so, and usually only after a community discussion and consensus that IAR applies. I've answered your question(somewhat, at least) at the Teahouse. 331dot (talk) 16:25, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Well most of what is on the Wikipedia page involves facts - and the content outside of primary sources are outdated as well. This is why we submitted the COI request on the talk page about a year and a half ago regarding the use of the financial reports in order to try and correct that information. It was simply just numbers - nothing else. And it was considered promotional for some reason. These gray areas are where Wikipedia becomes frustrating.216.54.105.125 (talk) 16:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Financial information from an organization's website is not so much promotional as it is unsubstantiated by an outside source. Numbers can be made up and declared true. Just see Kraft/Heinz estimate of its own worth before the truth was out. David notMD (talk) 16:41, 26 February 2019 (UTC)