User talk:21stCenturyGreenstuff/Archive 1

Penarth RFC
Hope this is the kind of thing you were looking for. Cheers, --FruitMonkey (talk) 20:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

re: Johnny Johnson and the Bandwagon
Hi 21stCenturyGreenstuff, thanks for your response. Although it's unfortunate about your edits to Johnny Johnson and the Bandwagon, just thought this policy would be worth looking over, at the very least from the point of view of a new Wikipedia editor: Verifiability. I saw that you're working on an autobiography.... just know that once it is published, your memoirs can be cited in an article as a reliable source. :-) I for one would definitely know what it was like to work with Kate Bush!   Cheers.... - eo (talk) 01:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Sully, Vale of Glamorgan and Sully Island
I think you've done a really good job on those pages - you've improved them tremendously. Thanks! I made a couple of minor edits - Wikipedia style doesn't italicise headings; just use the ==heading==, ===subheading===... markup. I also removed the mention of the post office and the Sully Inn - although the Sully Inn is certainly a historic building about which much could be written, if we could just find it, and the Post Office has been the village shop for several generations, it doesn't add much to the article just to say that the village has a pub and a shop. It would be more notable if Sully didn't have those!

Thanks again for all the work you've done on these, it's really nice to see my home village getting some Wikipedia lovin'. :) Vashti (talk) 18:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Bayston Hill
Hello,

I saw your message at WP:ENGLAND about Bayston Hill and thought I'd give you a nudge about WP:UKCITIES which is a resource/guideline put together to provide UK "place" articles a consistent layout and content style. Hope it helps! Happy editting! --Jza84 | Talk  01:10, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Paula Yates
Sorry, Hutchence's just didn't sound right, my mistake :) BTW, I'm from Birmingham too. INXS-Girl (talk) 15:15, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I am English and not at all sad, it's Hutchence not Hutchence's, say it out loud. Sounds like something an idiot chav would say. 82.18.230.206 (talk) 20:40, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well sonny, I guess you are sadder than you thought and Yes, your university education does appear to be wasted. Learn to punctuate your English correctly before you start firing blanks! 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 13:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh dear, I appear to have changed sex too. 82.18.233.248 (talk) 20:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * LOL Phut! that was the sound of one of my blanks....Isn't it funny how you assume certain things?....My sincere apologies for such a basic error. Hope you are having a nice day 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 21:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Dreamland Margate
I have reverted your recent edit to Dreamland Margate. You changed the text before the citation to something which is not backed up by the cited source. In addition, your text which read Twenty five percent of the ride's track footprint has been totally destroyed including the first main tower, the station and the workshop storage facility. Early indications by scenic railway experts are that the ride can be rebuilt. However, the ride's trains are irreplaceable as they were the last surviving original 1920's scenic railway cars in existance, although replica rolling stock can be found or fabricated. is unsourced, so cannot be included. If you need assistance in citing sources, have a look at WP:CITE. If you would like me to help, let me know which newspaper you read the story in and I'll try and work in a citation for you. -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 12:35, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The amendments to the Dreamland page were drawn from here http://www.savedreamland.co.uk/ which is updating daily since the fire and contains links to dozens of other sites and newspaper reports. My amendments to the Dreamland article were a precis of all the extant and more up to date information than the older referenced quotation that you have reverted to.


 * "Police investigating the fire which badly damaged the Scenic Railway have now confirmed it was started deliberately. Samples collected by specialist police and fire officers at the Margate site on Tuesday have been sent off for analysis in the arson investigation."


 * "It was difficult to gauge just how much of the Scenic has gone with smoke billowing around the park, but I would guess we have lost at least 25% of the track, part of the Station and - this is the worst bit by far - the workshop."


 * "Approximately 25% of the structure (the main lift hill and much of the central part of the ride) has been lost, and so has the workshop, which housed all the original trains."


 * "The trains are more difficult, but there are other examples elsewhere in the world, and at Great Yarmouth, which could be used as a template for a rebuild." 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 13:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I've worked in three of the latest BBC news stories about the fire, and moved it to its own section. What do you think of this? --  JediLofty User ¦ Talk 13:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, better than what was there before. How about mentioning the extent of the damage though...25% of the track, the main lift hill, station and workshop...and the loss of the original 1920s rolling stock? To the casual reader it may sound currently like the whole ball of chalk has gone up in flames. 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 13:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * That's a good point, well made. It's such a shame that the Dreamland site has been allowed to fall into such a state of disrepair.  I have very fond memories of being taken there as a child, back before it became "Bembom Brothers".  --  JediLofty User ¦ Talk 13:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Lavernock
I think you're right. All done - in future you can redirect by replacing the page's contents with #REDIRECT target. You're doing great work on these pages. :) Vashti (talk) 16:15, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Dolly Parton
Hi, 21stCenturyGreenstuff. I reverted your deletion for the reason I stated: there was no justification given in the Edit Summary. I did not look in the article Talk because you gave no indication to look there. Please make good use of the Edit Summary; it's a courtesy to other editors, particularly to those who have many articles in their watchlist.

As to your (and the previous anonymous person's) claim that the cited source made no mention that Dolly the sheep was named after Dolly Parton and thus was a false attribution -- you seem to have missed the following statement in the given source. "Dolly the cloned sheep, named after singer Dolly Parton, was born 10 years ago." It's in the article's accompanying photo caption.

I am reinstating the statement, again. If you doubt the veracity of the current source, it would be better to instead tag the statement "in need of a better citation". But don't delete the statement saying that it was not properly referenced. Thanks. --Mercury McKinnon (talk) 03:53, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * LOL You were too late, it was already back and this time I had added a better and more suitable reference than the one you placed there, the BBC quote (currently Ref 25) actually states that DP was the influence for naming of the sheep 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 10:08, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of King Edward VI School, Spilsby
Please don't take offense, but I have nominated King Edward VI School, Spilsby, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/King Edward VI School, Spilsby. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Ecoleetage (talk) 00:46, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Userspace
Hi. You mentioned you weren't sure how to create an article in your userspace. It's pretty simple to do it just by typing the url that you want, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:21stCenturyGreenstuff/New article right in the address bar. See also How do I create a user subpage? Additionally, you can use templates such as underconstruction to let people know something is being actively worked on. Cheers! --Dhartung | Talk 23:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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 * Deletion is fine, this image was just too damned big for its purpose. I have replaced it with a smaller version, which is why this is now orphaned 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 13:03, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

May 2008
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 * For heaven's sake don't be so prissy and oversensitive. That was no attack. If you want to see attack just wait till I am annoyed and turn the words on. That 'editor' had made a number of stupid and juvenile changes to the article, which I reverted...but commenting that they could not count is NOT an attack, in any shape or form. Go away and prissy at someone else 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 15:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Woodhouse Grove School
Basically, you just need to go through the article and eliminate all the superlatives, along with anything that might be described as opinion as opposed to verifiable fact. For example, its an opinion that the school is "caring", or that it offer a "high standard" of something (unless of course you have independent reliable sources which make such statements, in which case you can quote those sources but not simply reproduce those statements as if they were fact). Perhaps it might help if you had a look at WP:NPOV and any related pages. Hope that helps. Regards, Gatoclass (talk) 12:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

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Good work on Penarth
I'm impressed with progress and live in Cardiff - so if there is anything particular you would like a photo of or want me to look into for you let me know. Cheers Tony (talk) 15:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Royal Observer Corps
I like your many additions to the ROC article, now rounder and so much fuller! I have been on holiday or would have replied earlier. (My father was commandant Colchester group (1961-80).) —Saltmarsh 06:34, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Photos of Stanwell School Cogan and Penarth
Hi I've made a good start and linked them via a commons at the bottom of the Penarth article by putting thme all in a cat Penarth Wales - feel free to move any to different categories etc. I'll get the rest when I can. Stanwell School is huge! Cheers Tony (talk) 17:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

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Cosmeston Lakes
Thanks for doing the additional cleanup. I missed a couple. :) Vashti (talk) 00:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Comma and
I'm afraid I disagree about the comma + and. If you write, "I like chocolate and beer", it means both mixed together. One should write, "I like chocolate, and beer". It's the same as a tall, cool, and tasty drink.--andreasegde (talk) 14:26, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah but I speak and advocate British English, especially where associated with a British biography. The Serial comma of which you refer is a comparatively new invention more associated with the 'bastardised' American English, sadly becoming more prevalent in recent years. Just put me down as a diehard traditionalist in this regard. As to the example you quote I would have said "I like both chocolate and beer". Any sentence can be rearranged to avoid a double comma. I just prefer my English as she should be spoked. Mmmmm, chocolate and beer? I must try that sometime, sounds yummy (although my diabetes nurse might have something to say afterwards) 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 14:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I was also born in England. Americans would never add a comma if they could help it, because they are too intent on simplifying English to the point of least resistance.--andreasegde (talk) 16:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Jamie Lee Curtis
Ah, but it wasn't you, it was a user named Atomaton a few weeks ago. Cheers! --Bridgecross (talk) 18:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

re: Robb Douglass
Hi there, to confirm, none of the detail about the photographer with a Canadian background was written by me, as you can see from the article's edit logs. I myself have only entered detail about his site and death. If you know the information on the page to be false, please correct it. Tphi (talk) 03:00, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Radyr Comp photos
I've added some photos of the Comp to Commons in the category Radyr Cardiff (it's not an easy place to photograph as it's in a dip) Also refered someone who has just moved to a house overlooking Penarth pier to your Penarth article and they said it was really interesting. Cheers Tony (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks pal, I have upped three piccies to the Comp's article...looks much better now. I am in Penarth for a few days and have added some pics myself to the Barry Island Pleasure Park and Glamorganshire Golf Club articles. My camera is not up to the standard of yours though and I am not so lucky with the weather and the skyscapes as you seem to be. 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 17:28, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The infobox on Barry Island isn't working properly so set pic to 250px as a work around. Been having a go at some bios for a bit of a change from motorcycles - when you have a moment take a look at Christabel Leighton-Porter and see if you can add to it?  All the best Tony (talk) 19:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Radyr
Just a quick note to give a big thumbs up to your great work on the Radyr page. It looks great and needs to be reviewed. I'm a bit fed up with the slow recognition of Welsh pages; do we actually have anyone reviewing our pages anymore? I think I'll post on the page to kick them into action as the page deserves recognition. FruitMonkey (talk) 00:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Jayne Mansfield
Please, refrain from removing sourced and cited material like you did a couple of times at the article on Jayne Mansfield. If you really need to remove something of that sort, please, discuss on the article talkpage. Aditya (talk • contribs) 05:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh! Sorry. It was intended for another person. My bad. Aditya (talk • contribs) 05:06, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's OK, easy mistake to make. The Mansfield vandal is driving me nuts and I wish he would go away 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 10:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Dickie Pride
I saw your message on Pride's talk page. I added / amended / referenced some additions with a re-write. Is it better now ?

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:02, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Loads better Derek. Still needs a tidy up but it is much much better than it was an hour ago 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 19:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

User:70.128.184.187
How do we make this person stop making wonderful edits to the article on Jayne Mansfield? A block? Aditya (talk • contribs) 07:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Richard Jordan (RAF officer)
Glad to help - although it really needs some references added (I will have another look at it later). I have access to birth, marriage and death indexes for England and Wales which helps in these cases but I dont think the information if freely available without a subscription. If you have any queries then please ask. Did try looking up Finlay Crerar but he could have been born/died in Scotland or Ireland which I dont have any info for. MilborneOne (talk) 11:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

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 * Delete away, I have replaced it with one containing a copyright status box 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 16:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Date formats
Thanks for the heads up on my talk page. I must say I am quite surprised. There has been much discussion over the past few months about date formats. I (and several others) were involved in much of it until we got tired of teh same discussion going nowhere. At that time, the Wikimmunity was certainly far from consensus about date formats, although there were several strong-willed editors who disliked the preponderance of blue dates.

Most of the time, I wikilink dates while I am editing to provide date consistency within an article. I find several instances of mmm dd, yyyy intermixed with dd mmm yyyy in the same article.

re: "Dates are not linked unless there is a particular reason to do so. ", do you think it would be considered a "particular reason" to ensure that the Date format specified on thousands of users' My preferences works as desired? Do you know if there is an alternative to wikilinking dates that causes a user's desired date format to appear. Mine, for example, is yyyy-mmm-dd (preferred because it sorts better than mmm-dd-yyyy; even better would be yyyymmmdd, which is heavily used in oriental countries). Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 01:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Mason Turner
Hi, I notice that you have undone apparent vandalism to Mason Turner. However, I have deleted the page as a hoax - it is in fact a copy of Brian Turner (American poet). HTH. TerriersFan (talk) 23:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

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Pounds

 * Thanks for your comments - nice to have a positive one! Pounds look like an interesting project. Yes - I do need to get out more. Jeremy Bolwell (talk) 11:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Guglielmo Marconi
If you examine this change that I made, you'll see that I changed all dates that were not in dd Month yyyy to that format. I only later changed the one date back to Month dd, yyyy' because it is in a quotation, and that's the format used in the source of the quotation. --Elliskev 20:34, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry then, I didn't spot that. However, even though it is a direct quotation, I don't see why those dates should not also match the rest of the dates in the article. Such a change would not alter the sense or meaning of the quotation and it would not confuse any of the datebots that are cruising through wiki at present. 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 21:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I was following the guideline at MOS:NUM which says that the requirement to maintain a consistent date format does not apply to dates in quotations. --Elliskev 12:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Reverting vandalism
Hi, thanks for removing nonsense from Sabrina. However, you missed the other part of this edit. It's always worth checking the edit history when fixing vandalism -- often you will find that valid stuff has been deleted.

I suggest you have a look at WP:REVERT for useful tips on "Undo" and other ways to use the History page. Best wishes, Fayenatic (talk) 16:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I did see that but did not have any specific knowledge as to whether "devil child" was right or wrong, so I left that part unchanged for another editor to deal with. 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 17:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks -- excuse me for teaching you to suck eggs. I don't often see vandalism mixed with valid stuff, but I concede that it happens. On this one, Google results are conclusive enough for me. - Fayenatic (talk) 17:40, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Gordon Herbert Vasse
Good work on the Gordon Herbert Vasse article so far. Greenshed (talk) 20:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Pa(d)get Rooms, Penarth
Thanks for pointing out the spelling problem. Some Wiki-purist will probably want to cite a reference, so I'll refer to the photo inside the CD Arjayay (talk) 16:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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BOURNVILLE TECH.
For someone who was only at BBTS for one year (?), you have a remarkable memory! Fortunately I have a whole seven years of memories from 1962 to 1969, and still live locally [unfortunately]. 91.110.166.9 (talk) 18:22, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

That's nothing I can remember stuff from when I was 18 months old...and I can relive whole episodes from junior school. I always have a close to photographic memory...it was three years, I left at the end of the third form 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 18:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

OK so please reply to my earler e-mail and give me your name - I might even remember YOU! Martin

Already replied, should be in your inbox.....could you sign up for a wiki account?....only takes minutes and stops your shifting IPs every time you log on 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 19:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

91.110.166.9 (talk) 18:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Worldwide Search For Past Pupils Press Release Details Summary Students at a Birmingham school are using the internet to bring old friends together for their 50th anniversary celebrations. PR Portfolio Education Reference Number 7863 Press contact David Ballard - 0121 303 3621 Issue Date 8 August 2005 Present and past pupils at Bournville School and Sixth Form Centre, Griffins Brook Lane, Birmingham, are busy surfing the net sending out invitations for a grand reunion. '''The technical school for girls, the city’s first technical school, was opened by Mrs L Cadbury on 10 October 1955. It later combined with the grammar school for boys.'''

“We already have people coming home from Australia and the USA,” says Christine James, deputy head teacher. “They are really keen to take part in this important event and meet up with old friends. Everyone who comes will be able to look around and see all the changes that have taken place. We’ll have a dinner, bar, disco and entertainment from the staff and school big band.”

As well as asking former pupils to attend, the school would also like to borrow old photographs and other memorabilia for a temporary display. The celebrations at Bournville School take place on Friday 14 October 2005. Tickets at £15 each are available from the school. Contact Sarah Pinfield on 0121 475 3881 or email enquiry@bournville.bham.sch.uk."

I think the grand reunion was cancelled by the way! So were the Girls 'technical' too? Martin P.

91.110.166.9 (talk) 19:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Pity it was cancelled, I would have poodled down to Brum for that. I am mightily puzzled about the info though. I lived close to the school and the Girls school definitely opened two years before the Boys was built and opened....and the boys school opened in 1955....But I wonder if all they did was change the name of the girls school?...But....But no, they didn't do any technical stuff at the girls school.....and the school sign on the Bristol Road South definitely read Bournville Girls Grammar School as late as 1963....so I think they have got their info wrong and reversed....it was the boys technical school that opened in 1955 and combined with the girls grammar 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 19:24, 2 October 2008 (UTC)