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Remembrance/ Armistice Day
🇦🇺 11th Hour, of the 11th Day, of the 11th Month 1918 11:00 AM 11-11-2009(local), 24:00 10-11-2009(UTC)

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Graphic lab
Hi 220.101.28.25. I'm not reading Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop on a daily basis. If you need my help again in the near future you should probably try to reach me on my talk page. I have some knowledge of how to edit vectorial files and I can perform some basic French<->English translations. But this svg translation work was a pretty easy job. You should give it a try, download Inkscape, download the original svg file on and see how easy it is to change or add text. You could also use the svg translation tool on wikimedia commons if the text length if the text lengths is similar enough after translation (if not, the text might cover some parts of the drawing). --PiRK (talk) 14:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi
Hi - thanks for your contributions. Just wondering, are you familiar with this policy? We actually don't use the TM symbol in Wikipedia unless it is needed in context. For your recent edit, which is talking about the term being trademarked I don't think it is necessary to repeat the symbol. Would you agree? Thanks. 7 04:48, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello back 7. The section in question already had (TM) after the word. I was just trying to put the 'correct' symbol in place. If its' against policy fine. Actually, I thought I had forgotten to save my change and was putting it back when I saw your 'message box'. No worries.
 * --220.101.28.25 (talk) 05:07, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Fort Hood shooting
Hi, I just wanted to say you're doing a good job getting the most up to date info up on the talk page here. just out of curiosity, why don't you create yourself an account? Then (after 4 days and 10 edits) you'll be able to edit the page yourself to add the info directly. HJMitchell   You rang?   03:24, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I've been considering it. May have even picked a decent username. Too Lazy perhaps?
 * Q: Can I take my current edit history with me? Mainly so I know what I've fiddled with. --220.101.28.25 (talk) 03:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

By the way: 

HJ Mitchell has eaten your cookie! The cookie made them happy and they'd like to give you a great big hug for donating it. Spread the WikiLove by giving out more cookies, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Thanks again!

Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat a cookie with {{subst:munch}}!

HJMitchell   You rang?   03:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

My first cookie too (cookie 'virgin'?). I tried sending a beer, but the 'wiki-monster' stated using bad words like 'transclude'. Appears I almost signed you up for 'Project Beer'!

Well, this sad incident was certainly educational. (I know where Texas is now. Without a state map). But the wiki side was very interesting too. Is there any wiki-jargon for what happens when a major event like this occurs? 'Edit frenzy' perhaps, thinking of a swarm of sharks in a 'feeding frenzy'. That's what it seemed like. I'd be surprised if 'Fort Hood' didn't have over 1,000 edits.
 * Did you spot on the 'Fort Hood' talk page where, 2+ hours ago, I put info/link where the Wall Street Journal said the shooting started after 13:20 local time? The point is, which source is most reliable? WSJournal, ABC, CNN, National Enquirer(!) ?

--220.101.28.25 (talk) 05:14, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I saw that when you put it up. I note with interest that nobody else has acted on it. Whether this is because nobody else has seen it, they can't be arsed or some genuine reason I can only speculate. There are a lot of sources giving the later time- BBC, various newspapers (both sides of the Atlantic) and that's the first I've heard of the other time. Is anybody else quoting that time? What time has Gen Cone or other Army spokesmen given? I'll take a look myself but anything you can come up with would be appreciated. HJMitchell    You rang?   05:41, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I've contacted Bigtimepeace to see if he has an opinion on the time thing. HJMitchell    You rang?   06:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Rodger, message received. Info seems to be coming from her boss "Chuck Medley, director of emergency services at Fort Hood." 10 minutes isn't much, but people might start quoting us so. The Ft Hood website press releases may have more more details (I can't access them at present, need 'Microsoft Net Framework'? or something to download) --220.101.28.25 (talk) 06:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * What's the Ft Hood URL? I'll take a look and see if I can dig something up. As I tell people all the time, anyone who quotes WP without checking the reference is a fool! I could write anything I like (and people do write shit on here!) but just because it's on WP doesn't mean it's so, hence WP:V! HJMitchell    You rang?   06:41, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Bigtimespace has replied at his talk page. He suggests going with the time used by every other news agency and, since it is every other agency as far as I can see, I'm inclined to agree. HJMitchell    You rang?   06:55, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Ft Hood WebSite
It's on the article RIGHT at the bottom under External links http://www.hood.army.mil/. I've had a look back, who cut 2009 off the title? any consensus on that or summary pro-action? That References section is huge. Can that be turned into a sort of 'fold away' list like I've see elseshere?? --220.101.28.25 (talk) 07:14, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know. I haven't looked at the history in all of 10 minutes which is time enough to completely lose track! Makes me glad (no offence to yourself) that it's semi protected so you don't have IPs adding shite to it and their edits going unnoticed. As for the refs section, since you mentioned it, I changed the template to {reflist|3} so they show in 3 columns, thus taking up less room. Although, you think it looks big from the outside, you should take a look at it in edit mode! Someone had the (brilliant) idea of moving all the fiddly bits in there and putting them in tags. It makes it a hell of a lot easier to edit the main body! Oh, and I've seen articles citing many, many more sources- like Her Majesty's article, for example!
 * Out of curiosity (again!), have you given any more thought to creating an account for yourself? HJMitchell    You rang?   07:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Havinf abiot of trouble thinking of anything at the moment. Afew hrs sleep my Thursdary night, then thsi thing happened and I only had a few hours sleep last night too (My Friday). a BIT tired. We'll see on the account thing. Slow steps.(Yawn)Sorry.  Didnt see waht you did with the references, mustve got reverted. Article seems to be ~4 screens text, ~2 screens refs. wiki-break time--220.101.28.25 (talk) 08:23, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't feel I'm pressuring you! You don't have to create an account if you don't want to, nor any sooner tan you want to. I just put the references in 3 columns rather than the two they were in earlier so they take up that bit less room. Unfortunately, there's not much else to do with them, which is why the refs are usually right at the bottom of the article. Well, if you're taking a break (not a bad idea, actually!) have fun and do say hi if/when you're back on. You've done a good job from what you could do on the talk page so I hope you'll keep it up. Regards, HJMitchell    You rang?   08:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Various

 * Yes you can "take your edits with you" there's a page somewhere to request that.
 * One of the reasons "References" is good at the end is that it doesn't matter how long it is it doesn't get in the way of the substance of the article. Ref.s section can be made smaller type, hidden or put in a window, but these are all a bit gimmicky and not very accessible. Not sure they are deprecated, but maybe.  Probably better to move to fewer references in due course, at the moment there are city papers from all over the US and most news channels are cited. There may be some duplicates too.
 * The level of citation is good however.
 * Rich Farmbrough, 07:36, 8 November 2009 (UTC).

RichF re Ft Hood #2
Thanks for above but my actual first message to you went 'missing'. (Sorry) This is what I was saying.

RichF This needs a rewrite under Fatalities, as there were 13 killed and all 13 names are now listed , "The names so far released of those killed are:" rewrite as perhaps: "The names released of those killed are:" or "The names of those killed are:" or "Those killed were"

--220.101.28.25 (talk) 07:39, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course there is no guarantee others may not die. I will review the article. Rich Farmbrough, 07:58, 8 November 2009 (UTC).


 * Glad to see you're still contributing to the discussions! Keep up the good work. HJMitchell    You rang?   11:57, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

'ello HJMitchell
Yep, still browsing around. Nice 'Injured' table by the way. Have you had a look at the 'Scridb' website where Hasan is alledged to have made comment on an 'essay' about martyrdom? It was referred to in the press early on. To my surprise it is still available (as I noted on the Ft. Hood talk page). Thought the site admin would take it down. I've got a copy but haven't read it yet! --220.101.28.25 (talk) 12:25, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers, it took me bloody ages! I hate wikitables! Thankfully that one was pretty simple, but I still struggled! I was going to do it yesterday after I did the fatalities table but the article was too busy- 4 edits a minute at one point! It seems to have quietened down now. Whether that's because it not even 7am CST or because it's dropped off the front pages I don't know.
 * I did read the link you put on the talk page but I'm not entirely sure how we could make use of it in the article. I'll add it in if we can find a place for it, though. Any ideas?
 * Btw, I noticed your conversation with Rich. I'd suggest asking a bureaucrat about taking your edits with you- there's a list of 'em- they're the ones who know that sort of thing. HJMitchell    You rang?   13:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


 * There was a link to it (Scridb) in the Fort Hood shooting article at one stage, but it was removed. And it was mentioned in some early news reports. I just wanted it available in case it was proved it originated with Hasan. There was apparently, someone impersonating Hasan in the comments on that essay. That user is now "Sorry, but NidaIHasan is no longer a member of Scribd". BUT NidalHasan (the shooter?) is apparently still an active account! Look the same don't they? NOT! The first accounts' L is in fact an upper case i ! Trickery! Not obvious in Arial font, so look at it in the edit mode with serifs!
 * Rich was a bit of an accident. I dropped him a talkback tag, but my message went missing. Must have wondered what I was on about. He ended up reading my message/s to you. Thus the info that I can keep my edits. Serendipity. --220.101.28.25 (talk) 13:50, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, the link's on the talk page. It may well gain more media attention in the days to come, in which case, it might be worth a mention in the article. Btw, I could use some backup on the talk page- someone's reignited the discussion over that flaming gun politics section. I've taken that picture of the gun out of the article. Again. And given my rationale on the talk page but some help would be appreciated!  HJMitchell    You rang?   22:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Gun Politics
Troops rallied, fire support delivered. Special Forces on standby. Intelligence asset s tasked. Been catching ZZZZs, so was off-line, why it took so long to get back to 'work'.

If you have the chance, this line is a bit redundant, it appears twice in much the same form. 
 * "According to his cousin, Hasan became more religiously devout after the deaths of his parents in 1998 and 2001 respectively.[37]"

1) at end of 'Early Life', 2) 8 paras down in 'Recent Events' section. --220.101.28.25 (talk) 02:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll have a look. I wrote the first sentence as I recall. Probably a legacy of the fragmented editing. HJMitchell    You rang?   02:25, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Can't find it- might have been fixed already... HJMitchell    You rang?   02:34, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Nope, still there as of 02:25 'Recent Events' has been moved and parts of it become 'Motive'. Try a search for "cousin"? Deleting FIRST occurence, is probably easiest fix. --220.101.28.25 (talk) 02:57, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

✅. I got it- I credited you in the edit summary fwiw! HJMitchell   You rang?   03:09, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Strip Club
Made this comment on the Ft Hood talk page, replying to your comment FYI.
 * At the moment it IS in. Has been for maybe an hour? It is a bit doubtful. But it is published. Wonder if they have any security footage of Hasan at the club?. Remember the 9/11 hijackers did something similar, though that seemed to be more a deliberate 'fit in' deception action. Perhaps best ts say 'it is reported'? not a blank statement as it isn't verified ie. undisputable video/pictures.<BR>--220.101.28.25 (talk) 06:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I was in the middle of GIMPing together pieces of a map. My point was, whether its true or not, it has absolutely no bearing on the article or his actions. Him being at the strip club was not an indicator that he was going to start killing people, nor was it a motivation. If it's later revealed that he owed a hundred thousand dollar bar tab, that may be different, but as it stands it has no place in the article. - <b style="font-size:bigger;color:#900">D</b>rew <b style="font-size:bigger;color:#900">S</b>mith <i style="font-size:smaller;color:#ccc">What I've done</i> 06:58, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Ft Hood Injured Table Removed
FYI, At about 13:00 (UTC) you much 'loved' table was removed. I was in the process of posting 4 new name for inclusion at the exact same time! Apparently some concensus over the Virginia Tech incident sets a precedent to NOT publish injured. <BR>--220.101.28.25 (talk) 13:43, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Damn. Well, to be honest, I'm not terribly surprised, though it's not normal to follow precedents on WP. That said, I'm not going to start a revert war over it- I have better things to do, quite frankly! I might get my ten pence worth on the talk page and take another look later, but I have a tort law lecture at 3 (GMT/UTC). Anything else interesting happened of late? HJMitchell    You rang?   14:42, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

No nothing much happening. Finally had my 'dinner' (2am local time!) Got distracted sorting out who was newly named as injured in the reports and posting it on the talkpage. As soon as I posted it, I updated the page and found out the table was already gone! Annoying! Ce la Vie I suppose. 'Tort' Law, sound like fun ;). I like apple torts myself. --220.101.28.25 (talk) 14:56, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Not a lot of fun! I kept getting flaming edit conflicts on the talk page, so I'm too late now! Oops! Missing a lecture to edit wikipeddia! Not good! 2AM? Where are you? I liked your vigorous defence of the protection by the way- you speak sense, but I don't think those 2 IPs liked it! HJMitchell    You rang?   15:11, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm in the wide brown land of Oz. And "Damn the IPs' full speed ahead!" The latest few talkpage IP posts have been plain silly. Wonder what they'd do if the article wasn't protected? I'm going to get overdue sleep! zzZZzzzZZZzzzZZZZzzzzZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZZZ

--220.101.28.25 (talk) 15:55, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sure it's warmer down there than it is in rainy Lincoln! Fair enough, drop me a line when you're back on- I'll be on and off for most of the day I think. And that's exactly why it's protected! HJMitchell    You rang?   16:04, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Weather
You'd be surprised. Very Changeable. Last Tuesday 3/11 VERY hot ≈38°C Record. Thursday 4/11 under 20°C and raining. Saturday/ Sunday ≤20°C + Rain. Today Sunny then cloudy ≤20C --220.101.28.25 (talk) 16:21, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * And I thought only the English moaned about the rain! I see somebody's taken it upon themselves to create an article on Hasan... HJMitchell    You rang?   23:21, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Mainly it never falls in the right place. We are still largely in drought here! Yes, I noticed new page had a look at who was at it. Interesting. Must be discreet. Not forget this is NOT a private page! Was a guy called Hasan Akbar who fragged a few officers (in Iraq) I think in '03. Interesting coincidence. It's there under See also on Fort Hood shooting page, in case you haven't noticed. --220.101.28.25 (talk) 03:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

An account
Why don't you get an account? You seem to know plenty about how wikipedia works, and seeing your custom sig it's clear you want people to recognize you from other random IP's. So why no account? - <b style="font-size:bigger;color:#900">D</b>rew <b style="font-size:bigger;color:#900">S</b>mith <i style="font-size:smaller;color:#ccc">What I've done</i> 19:12, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Fort Hood cite ERRORS
Can you fix these while you're in the vicinity? Thanks! --220.101.28.25 (talk) 19:39, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No, my Internet connection is lagging - this would require much more page loading than changing one link. This error occurs because someone has deleted some references - if there is a reference used multiple times you can name it and use shortened version it elsewhere in the article, if the reference containing the source is deleted, but shorthand references are not this is what happens, because the software has no text to display. You can correct it yourself - these errors show the names of shorthand references, just go trough article's history find original sources and replace one of the matching shortened versions with it. For example, if you have error ''tag with name "NAME" defined in before the question. Again, welcome!

Danny F II
No problem, the article will get bashed into better shape over time. I'm just sourcing a few more details about her launch date atm. Mjroots (talk) 12:20, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

We shall 'fight' them on the talk pages.....
Re 3RRR Oh, dear. At least I'm not the only one who has things go cockeyed in a micro second! I've been at the 'keyhole' watching whats happening. Have you ever copped one of these before? I will ask if you've looked at the other sides talk page? (3 little black marks at least ) Don't know if past transgressions are of any import here(I assume not). It is late there, plead didminished responsibility! Don't answer if you're busy with 'legal' matters.--220.101.28.25 (talk) 01:55, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice to know someone's on my side. I can't be arsed with it. I've said my piece now I have an encyclopaedia to maintain- unless they're going to block an editor with 5.5k edits for his first, minor, transgression in 10 months of editing? Btw, I notice it just the same at the bottom of my talk page! Haha! HJMitchell    You rang?   02:26, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW, you're in Oz. Media here is reporting nothing but snow (someone forgot to tell them it's winter in this hemisphere!) what do you know about this cyclone thing? There's a discussion on it a WP:ITN/C- might help to have your input. HJMitchell    You rang?   02:33, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * edit conflict! Stop typing over me Dammit! edit conflict! And interruptd by a phone call [[Image:Smile-tpvgames.gif]]
 * (Answer to previous comment)Yes, but I didn't want ##.##.##.### to possibly follow it. He seems a little short tempered. Your record would be much cleaner than his, assuming you have verfiable, reliable third party source for your "first, minor, transgression in 10 months of editing?" He doesn't have pretty User page even(just has a re-peek at yours) Perhaps you should send him(her?) a cookie? --220.101.28.25 (talk) 02:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm, reliable sources?, and my nice clean user and user talk pages (and archives)! Lol! The perks of having an account. Though my userpage needs updating but I have better things to do on the wiki! What about the cycloneamobobby? Main page worthy?  HJMitchell    You rang?   03:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

←Edict conflict Mk2. Would you believe it? See I was putting a nice smiley face in! ↑ Will look at "cycloneamobobby", but want to be out in about an hour. Going to see"Avatar!! Haven't had breakfast!(14:30 local!), some ablutions needed too. ≈30°C outside, but clouding over, poss. thunderstorm! Too south for local cyclones(so far). Weather report says "Afternoon Mostly Sunny. Mild. 14 km/h NE - 46% humidity 27°C." But definitely felt a spot of rain. Don't forget to sleep, or have U nice comfy computer chair?--220.101.28.25 (talk) 03:29, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Nice smiley! Sorry about the edit conflicts! I went to bed in the end (at about half past 3 in the morning UTC/GMT). Sounds like you're in for a nice day- what I wouldn't give to be in your hemisphere! It's been well into the minuses here overnight, snow, ice, general cold weather. Though for some reason the media are obsessed with it (snow. In winter. How surprising!). HJMitchell    You rang?   15:15, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Well nothing you can do about it, esp as I tend to type(accurately) rather slowly. Each hemisphere has its advantages. Remember we (NSW) are still very much in drought ≈70%? Enough water in Sydney for several years, water retrictions have been eased but some towns are still running out of water, literally NO water. Here you can only (legally) water gardens pre 10AM & after 4PM, was once Wed. & Sun. only.
 * You have to dig yourself out sometimes perhaps, but we have heatwaves (& flies). Last week was 30°C at 22:00 local time! and is shaping up to be worst bushfire season in years. Few years ago 500 homes gone in Canberra, and that our capital. Few years since fires hereabouts so won't be surprised if we have a smoky Christmas. Royal National Park has grown back since last burned out so cycle starts again. Could use some of your excess rain and snow. Sounds good as warmth does to you but too much of anything?
 * Ours trains stuffed up by weather as well. Too hot rails buckle,(think they'd have sorted that out in a HOT country!) Trains windows don't open much due to idiots who climb out and get killed. (Du'h!) Not all aircon either. Lightning takes out signals etc. Same same. Heard of the 'Millennium Train', "ready in time for 2000 Olympics", Ha. Years late. Second Airport? Ha. Northwest rail line? (To where they are now talking Richmond RAAF as stop-gap airport) cancelled! Politics!--220.101.28.25 (talk) 15:58, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Had movie Flood with London getting, well, flooded on TV few days ago! Avatar worth seeing. Might see it again in 3d. Not quite Titanic. Sure they'll at least make mony back. Though heard $200 Million plus opening weekend! Record? Have to sleep. Later --220.101.28.25 (talk) 16:10, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Things that "east" you

 * What are you doing at what, 3AM? I don;t think I'd mind any of that too much, my only issue with Oz is there are far too many things that want to east you (you have funnel-web spiders, great white sharks and whatever else)! Drop us a line when you're back on. HJMitchell    You rang?   16:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Waah! I don't want to be "easted" by anything!. Funnel webs usually stay outside (ground dwellers). You forgot Redback spiders, Irukandji jellyfish, Blue ring octopus, Bunyips, Yowies, Tasmanian devils, Stone fish, Stingrays, Crocodiles, Dingos, Drop bears, Snakes(all sorts worlds deadliest!) "Uniquely, Australia has more venomous than non-venomous species of snakes." , Wild pigs, Wild Buffalo, Emus and if you get on the wrong side of a big Red 'roo one, on its's own, could likely give you kicking that a bunch of bovver boys would never approach. Even the male platypus has poison spurs! But no bears, mountain lions, skunks. Sharks usually just have a taste then spit you out, of course it's a bit too late then! - See also:Animal attacks in Australia --220.101.28.25 (talk) 03:17, 23 December 2009 (UTC) before the question on this page. Again, welcome! --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 06:11, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks like I'm being ganged up on!  Take that! [[image:Face-espiegle.svg|18 px]] Cry Havoc! --220.101.28.25 (talk) 06:51, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree. You really should register an account if you're going to be as prolific as you are. It also makes you a little more anonymous because people won't be able to find your location through your IP address. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 02:43, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

ITN for Pamir Airways Flight 112
--Since you're being ganged-up on, I'll join in. Get yourself an account already! I can use my magical admin powers to make thing so much easier for you! HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   13:51, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I wasn't expecting a shiny ITN banner! Nice! I was thinking we needed a miraculous survivor to get on the front page. Maybe the article will get better view stats now, which have been woeful. Only about 4,100, so far! See? [[image:Face-espiegle.svg|12 px]] --220.101.28.25 (talk) 14:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * That's not bad for an article that's only existed for 3 days! We were just waiting for a story- I would have put it up yesterday, but putting "a plane crashes in Afghanistan" on ITN 3 days after the fact would just make us look daft! So what about this account? ;) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   15:50, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

This is a threat!
I'm seriously considering doing this to you if you don't get an account soon! Mjroots (talk) 09:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Duzzo
Hey! I'll take a look at the scenario in a sec. WhisperToMe (talk) 15:04, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, the guy(?) is making me feel uncivil ! Can't have that ! Wish I'd approached you in the first place but as I said, I didn't see your 'mop'! --220.101.28.25 (talk) 15:19, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I missed your message this morning as I was editing under my alt account. So that this does not happen again, I've reverted the redirect of that account's talk page and allowed all users to edit it. That way, if anyone leaves me a message when I'm editing I'll know about it. Mjroots (talk) 18:22, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay! Noticed your alter ego, Mjr/mk.2, No huge hurry needed (I hope)!. Zzz time, 'busy' & offline next 12 hours or so anyway. Many thanks. --220.101.28.25 (talk) 21:05, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Again!
Hey Mjroots! Re. your revert diff, you just beat me, we actually edit conflicted, on my end at least! Great minds thinking alike?. Just a fluke I wasn't asleep, I should be!. wp:DENY?--220.101.28.25 (talk) 20:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Why not make an account
You clearly make a lot of edits and you just edited one of my articles. Make an account. Or at least a user page for the IP address. Daniel Christensen (talk) 20:47, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Another one! The pressure mounts! The  'Get an Account Cabal'  strikes! Who's article? Message acknowledged! --220.101.28.25 (talk) 20:56, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes my article lol. I almost put the my in "" quotations. I call it that because it's one that will never get added to much more than I made it ie it's not a current event. So yes, it's "my" article. Daniel Christensen (talk) 22:50, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it needs a trivia section. "The John Deere DB120 appeared in the background of episode n of X TV Show", or "Notable owners" of the John Deere DB120. I'm sure many Australian Farmers would be very interested in reading this article! Lots of big farms down here. Is there a 'farm machinery' info box? --220.101.28.25 (talk) 23:38, 25 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You can add that stuff. And you should know more about infoboxes and stuff aren't you almost an administrator? Daniel Christensen (talk) 00:26, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

←– Admin? , Admin?, <Big>Admin? <Big>Admin? Me? He, He. Don't think so! Daniel you need a drink! though I prefer. --220.101.28.25 (talk) 05:54, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Does it say an admin can't be an IP? It probably does, I just never saw it. SGGH ping! 21:57, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Hello. I have a question; why is your name a number? I'm curious. Anyway, thank you for giving me that notice on my page.Kittie Cat Girl (talk) 21:00, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi ... 3?!
I wanted to catch up after our earlier chat at ANI... I reckon if you're ever in any doubt as to what to do, ANI is a good place to go - it's probably not the best place to go, but you can be sure someone will point you in the right direction!

In this case I think you're right to be concerned, but it's a little too early for dispute resolution. It was a useful post, however, in as much as you should now have pointers for handling the situation if it gets worse.

Incidentally, do feel free to fire questions at me - I've got an open talk page and I welcome visitors!

You may wish to be forewarned, however, that I come from the other side of The Ditch ;-) Resident in the UK, though...

Cheers, <b style="color:#000">TFOWR</b>propaganda 20:01, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes I think that was my first AN/I post actually. Quick response at AN/I was good. Done some UAA, one of which has revealed a hoax and 6 likely sockpuppets, see HERE We have 'spoken' before, can't remember, perhap on HJ Mitchells talk page? or The Ref Desk? I remember the NZ res in UK. It will come to me.(more likely an edit history perusa will reveall all) As for that editor, I get uncivil when big changes are made w/o any edit summary, but if they had, I wouldn't have snooped and the error(and another that 'contributed' to this error)  may have stayed in the Shuttle article! I am becoming more aware of vandalism problem as in my recent experience (User creation log 'patrol'), many first edits by newly  registered accounts are vandalism, not just test edits either! It's a worry, as is my lack of sleep. I nodded off while writing this so it's about, 3½+ 2½ hours late(true!),and I am off to bed for a few more!' Later! --220.101.28.25 (talk) 23:48, 26 May 2010 (UTC)'


 * HJ Mitchell's talk page sounds a possibility. Not convinced I've ever posted at the Ref Desk (I was making a joke about just that the other day...!)
 * Anyway, enjoy the rest!
 * Cheers, <b style="color:#000">TFOWR</b>propaganda 23:53, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * ZzZzZz [[Image: Gnome-face-tired.svg |20px]]--220.101.28.25 (talk) 00:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: AN/I
No problem :) Good catch. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 06:41, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Scary! :( --220.101.28.25 (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Excellent
Did you get it so that signature shows up automatically using four tides? Daniel Christensen (talk) 13:14, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Or do you have to write it out each time? Daniel Christensen (talk) 13:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Not automatically, but I can paste it in. Getting it bold like before was a three step process anyway (using the 'buttons' above). Why is your time stamp going backwards? (13:13 → 13:14) Are you doing the same as me? Ah, yes revision history shows all ! 220.101.28.25 (talk) Contribs 14:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

request
You asked me to change my user name. I am agreeable to change it to RIPGary or, as a 2nd choice, RIPGC RIP Gary Coleman (talk) 05:14, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for understanding my concern, but it was just a suggestion actually, if it meets policy you may be able to keep it. See wt wp:Username policy. I personally think it is a good idea to change it. I feel RIPGC may be the better one, or you could seek the opinion of a more experienced editor or wp:Administrator who works in this area.
 * To arrange to change your username click this link Changing username. --I am 220.101.28.25 (talk) Contribs11:40, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

hey
In Flanders Fields has been one of my favourite poems for a long time. :) Just a q: How are you both in the UK and Australia with one IP? {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 08:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Nah, that's just so I can keep track of the time in the UK where my main Wiki 'mate' is. The poems I put up last Anzac Day, I think. (Copy vio ??) --220.101 (talk) Contribs 08:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think so... :) btw, admirable tenacity with persisting as an IP editor... while I don't understand why you'd want to, I admire it. {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 08:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!, if tenacity = 'stubborness' maybe? MilesSmile.png --220.101 (talk) Contribs08:49, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * tenacity, in my dictionary, is "determination to persist with something even when it becomes inconvenient or difficult". Which, I guess, is reasonably apt. But there's a time to give in, hey? The Cabal™ is calling you... {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 09:11, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * AAAAAAaaa<Small>aaargh!</Small> Not the Cabal ®! >:-( --220.101 (talk) Contribs 09:27, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No, not the cabal, The CabalTM! And yes, we're calling you! ;) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   05:19, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Issue
Regarding the issue you mentioned on my talkpage, you can either let me know what the issue is (link to it if it's already mentioned on-wiki), or e-mail me using the "e-mail this user" feature if you prefer. I'll be glad to help any way I can. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 13:31, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * On your talk page, (E-mail?) --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 13:42, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Responded there. For future reference, my e-mail address is on the list at Arbitration Committee. Newyorkbrad (talk) 14:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Reign of the Gargoyles
G'day mate! What do you want to do with Reign of the Gargoyles? I removed the PROD tag from it because it looks like you were working on it (you can remove a PROD tag at any time if you're so inclined). So, if you agree with the RPOD, I'll revert myself and remove it, if not, it's all yours. HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   17:34, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Allo' Guv'ner! You're lucky I'm still up! I was basically watching the silly thing on TV (oh no! OR!) on Saturday(?) night, looked it up and it was just a few lines, actually "Reign of the Gargoyles is a 2007 TV film." was it! So I started putting a 'Synopsis' of the plot in. Not much info on it online, but I haven't spent a lot of time looking. Somebody (from Serbia?) has already been 'NPOVing' it, but I'm sure they were Nazi's not just German army! (Or SS or is that the same thing?) I wonder if this B-/C+ movie is notable enough? Not even the requisite nudie scene! Well, I suppose I'm stuck with it, GA here we come! I'll see what I can do with it. And whats on TV now at 4am, The Giant Gila Monster,OMG WPHAAOE! ps. Got your e-mail. pps. Why would vandals attack an article about Conifer cones? --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 18:23, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Vandals attack all sorts of weird and generally unlikely targets! Spend a few hours on RfPP and you'll see what I mean! If it's not notable enough, it'll probably end up at AfD once the original tagger realises (though some people are scared away when they realise the editor who de-tagged it happened to be an admin). In other news, I had yet another attack on my talk page (morons, I wish they'd get bored and/or just f*ck off!). My protection log doesn't need padding- I've been an admin for just over a month and I think my protections and deletions (mostly PRODs, which is how I found this) are into 4 figures. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   05:16, 9 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Yawn! (sorry I'm still tired from not sleeping much yester-day/night/week. In fact I nodded off!). Welcome to the 'human condition' ! Management always sucks. Sleeeeeep! A tired Admin is a grumpy Admin is a blocked Admin! Can't run a vast worldwide propaganda machine♮/conspiracy/(Cabal™) without sleepy time! OMG! I mentioned the Nazis!, Godwins Law applies!. The Conifer Cone Cabal will win! --220.101 (talk) \Contribs06:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC) ♮ Red link? No article on propaganda machine? Conspiracy!

EunSoo 'Socking' again?
Here we go again. Reported as another possible sock here. Dpmuk (talk) 13:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello and thank you
Hey 220.101, just dropping by to say thanks for the greeting and the offer for advice. I once used a site similar to Wikipedia so I should be okay, I hope I'll be okay. . . Thank you all the same, though. Also you're correct in assuming I'm an Australian! Ts9lk (talk) 06:54, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi. You may find Wikipedia has more rules/guidelines than other 'Wikis'. You have the right idea regarding Vandals already, read up on the FIVEPILLARS, take constructive critcism well (if you get any) and you should be ok. Happy Editing! --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 07:17, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

'Sack Tapping'
Hey 220.101.28.25, I replied on HJ Mitchell's talk page about my 'reverting'. P.S. You should get an account Thanks, Davtra (talk) 10:20, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * We shall all be called to account eventually. [[file:Tongue.png|18 px]] Wasn't 'having a go' at you, Davtra, just took the quick and easy path! Sorry! 220.101.28.25 (talk) Contribs 10:42, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries. Thanks, Davtra (talk) 11:21, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

I answered your comment at HJs talk page too. P.S. You should edit more often. .220.101 (talk) Contribs 10:58, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Cheers. Yes, I should edit more often. I registered an account in 2006. I made about 600 edits. I return to editing on Wikipedia last week and made 500 edits within a few days. I have about 7,500 articles to copy edit. That should bump my edit count. Thanks, Davtra (talk) 11:21, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Er Sorry! I assumed you had been editing slowly the entire time, my AGF fail! Better slow and steady. Some eds come in doing several thousands a month, but seem to burn out, or get a grumpy attitude. Even HJ had a 'slow' start IIRC. I think I might have done ≈900 in my 'best' month. 'Bout 30 a day, average. More yesterday I think. I've been 'patrolling' new users @User creation log. Bumps it up. Unfortunately, if they edit immediately too frequently are vandals. What about ≈5,000+ new accounts created a day? I wonder who all those other accounts are? Socks? of which I have found a few (incl. matching ones!), plus a hoax and other funny business. Agree about our friend needing an eye on. Definately seems AGF lacking. Happy (moderate) Editing! 13:19, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

No worries. My editing was slow because I was focusing on my writing. Rewriting stuff takes a lot of my time. I went through the user creation log once and I pushed the F5 (refresh) button every two seconds. It's addictive. Davtra (talk) 01:53, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Morning! Every "two seconds"?, my PC takes ≈6-10 seconds (wp:or) to update. Think my Unwired link is the problem, too slow! 256 K(bits?)second/12 Gb a month limit, amd I'm lucky to use half!. 220. etc. (talk) Contribs 02:05, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You're using Telstra BigPond as your internet service provider? Davtra (talk) 04:54, 13 June 2010 (UTC) 05:03, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, 'Unwired'. 220. etc. (talk) Contribs05:03, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Do it... do it...


do it...!

I'm sure you're aware, but one of the "complaints" I've heard about you is that until you do this you won't be able to do this ;-)

Not that I'm pushing, you understand - when people ask what I think about IP editors I point at you, and that's a good thing. <b style="color:#000">TFOW</b><b style="color:#F00">R</b> 08:20, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the "anti-funny username" cabal obviously wouldn't let me use "Robotic Autofellatiing Chimpanzee", so perhaps I'll have to try something else? As for that see this. or this. And pointing is rude! -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs 12:38, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


 * And the Cabal™ swells with the initiation of one new member. Ahh, the smell of fresh blood. 220.101, be ever wary. There is not a timezone that we don't reach. There is not a contrib that we don't see. Big Brother is watching you. {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 08:29, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * What! Jimbo's watching me? Hi Jimmy! MilesSmile.png Blood?Shocked-tpvgames.gif --220. (talk)\Contribs 12:38, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Mere IP Numbers we may be, but We are many. My Name is Legion! Beware! Bwah-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha


 * ...*coughs*...no...One thing I still don't understand: What is so appealing about editing from an IP anyway? {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 08:15, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * "...no..."? Eh? "appealing"? Nothing in particular, just what I have been doing for 9 months and 6 days. H'm, seems I'm at full term! Maybe a new editor shall be born? (Don't forget the stubborn factor) Please stop 'worrying' about me and go play whacka vandal! Gnome-face-angry.svg Maybe I'm the vampire, having slept from 7:00 - 14:00 local ? Smiley_green_alien_doof.svg -- 220. (talk)\Contribs 09:23, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * ...wow. Weird sleeping habits. And I had a serious lolwut moment at the pregnancy metaphor. (Whackavandal'll have to wait for now... I've got two term papers and a composition due soon, plus I have a gig tomorrow. Which is why I'm online. :P) Plus I love the infobox at the top of this section, btw :) {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 09:35, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Weird! Harrumph! Not really for Wikipaedaholics like me and HJ. Not very good, but common IMHO. Though I accidentally set my alarm to midnight, not midday, hence I 'slept in', which I needed actually! The info box is a standard box. So much for your Wiki break, hm? Remember "Wikipedia is not a social network"! Prioritise! Homework etc first!--220. (talk)\Contribs 10:05, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * True, true. Life beckons, though, during the day- I can't seem to avoid it, so my sleeping schedule is relatively normal. You probably do need the sleep! And with regard to my wikibreak- I've received two trouts already on another wiki for being online. The wikibreak enforcer didn't work, but it's still my fault, I guess. Papers first! Thus I depart; what are you supposed to be doing? {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 10:32, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

June 17 2010
Hi,

as per her personal Facebook page, GlobalBeauties.com, her official bio and all of her official modeling pages, her name is Jesinta. I agree about following references, but it's in everybody's best interest to follow correct ones (and I would argue that she knows how her name is spelled better than anyone else for that matter). I did include an official link upon correcting the typo, which is why I didn't add an edit summary.

A few links -

http://www.globalbeauties.com/news/2010/jun/aus.htm

http://www.scenemodels.com/models/1750/Jesinta+Campbell

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jesinta-Campbell/1175647987#!/profile.php?id=1175647987

http://www.fashionbash.com.au/showcase_models_details.php?Cid=20

Fra77 (talk) 14:24, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi back, well it seems you have got me there! Unusual spelling. The only reference I could find had her as Jacinta! Small wonder I couldn't find more. I also tried Cambell rather than Campbell. Note that Facebook and similar self published sources are not regarded as reliable sources. You can't always trust what a person says about themself. Also the reference in the article had it as JAcinta, at the time. If you change something it is practically mandatory to immediately change the reference too. (I wonder if Jacinta is her 'official' name, but she's using Jecinta as her 'modelling' name?)


 * It's is still a very good idea to always add an edit summary. I was at the point of changing it back when I got your message. A summary of "as per new reference", or similar, would have stopped me.


 * I have to admit that as in your signature your user name is red, ie I assumed you were a brand new account, which unfortunately have an alarmingly high level of vandalism (My bad!) Confused-tpvgames.gif. They register an account, deliberately vandalise a few articles and get blocked in a few minutes. They are only here to vandalise so they don't bother to make a user page. Therefore it would likely help if you just created the page to turn your signature 'blue'. (Just a thought!)


 * And please when you leave a message on a talk page, put ~ (4 tildes) at the end to sign, or use the pen-like "signature and timestamp" button at the top of the editing window. Happy editing! -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs 15:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi,

Jesinta is indeed unusual, but it seems to be the other main alternative to Jacinta. Interesting, I guess.

I did change the reference the first time I corrected the typo, but I must've forgotten to click on 'save' or something along those lines because for whatever reason, it didn't update the source with the new link I wanted to provide. I wasn't aware of it until I went and changed it the second time. I might look into creating a user page.

Thanks Fra77 (talk) 15:51, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm, Jacynta maybe?
 * Can't seem to access her facebook, though I had trouble with the last one I tried to see as well. Possibly you had a conflict with somone who saved at the same time you did? Apparently it does not always show up as a edit conflict.
 * I think all you have to do to create your user page is click on the "User page" tab and follow instructions. I think you need some content to create it, but a single comma or full stop will, I think, do the job. Somebody did it for me, so no expert on it. Regards,-- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs 16:29, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

prince van ahole
so how to get rid of those idotic redirect? i cant delete it. -Koppapa (talk) 05:24, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You want to delete the redirect and make Prince Von Ahole an available page or delete Prince Von Ahole? Davtra (talk) 05:42, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * A Stalker ?! Perhaps an administrator can help to delete it? Assuming it needs to be deleted? See also How to delete a page and Articles for deletion. Hope these help. Regards, -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs05:51, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Me, a stalker? Davtra (talk) 06:05, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[[Image:Obscured jaguar.jpg|200px|thumbnail|right|Davtra see you]]


 * perhaps? Nice Kitty! Meeow! Obscured Jaguar, Sneaky Vandal Coming Soon! -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs07:02, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Get an account
Edit for a short while, go here, and block the spammers yourself. (Seriously, your UAA reports are uniformly good.) Courcelles (talk) 18:14, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll only be going to bed soon! BTW some links to your 'moveable' identity still seem to exist. -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs 18:26, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You always go to bed whenever someone mentions you to request for adminship, don't you? Davtra (talk) 08:49, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * BS! Mind you I didn't go to bed till hours later. BTW It's usually about getting me to register! And usually late my local time ie 4:14 AM! --220.101  (talk) \Contribs 09:37, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Autoconfirmed, admin, they're all the same thing... once you register you're going to get every flag an admin can give. Then the RfA comes easily. {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 09:45, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 🇦🇺 Flag? And when is your RfA? Ms. Sonia? -- 220.101  (talk) \Contribs10:45, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * ...I'm going to be hypocritical and refer you back to your own response to that question. (can't find the diff now, but you ran off screaming.) I have a life, and I don't really want to sign it over.  Seriously though, I don't think I have the presence of mind to be an admin (not to mention it would be a very very speedy NOTNOW), but maybe when I'm over the age of majority. {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 11:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

That would be this."Easily"? I saw what HJ went through with his first RfA and there are 'work' areas I have barely/not touched on so wp:NOTNOW too. And unless you've outed your age who's to know? I believe there is no 'official' minimum age. OMG look at the time! Started this soon after you posted and I'm still stuffing about with it! I've been meaning to pop over to the ref desk for days! Welcoming and whacking new users, (when needed) can become boring! -- 220.101  (talk) \Contribs 14:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Jane Spencer
Strictly speaking, I suppose IMDB is enough to get rid of the BLP-PROD. Obviously for further avoidance of problems, some additional references should be provided. I don't think there's any question of notability here, but a BLP-PROD tag is automatic without references. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 22:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reply Realkyhick. Yes, Spencer seems notable. Editor does not seem to want to talk unfortunately! They have all the "First Article" help links, etc, and I 'wikified' the article as much as could be done quickly. Therefore I think I'll leave it to them, apart from the fact I should have gone to bed hours ago! There is as I mentioned a  or similar template which I have used once before, but I tried several variations without success and I can't find it documented! Regards, --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 22:37, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Everyone wants you to make an account
...so I'm going to... be an IP address like you now. See ya soon! OpenTheWindows 02:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * What happens if your IP changes? I always wondered that.  Davtra   (talk) 02:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * @OpenTheWindows. What? Has the revolt of the IPs started without me? --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 16:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * @ Davtra. Loss of credibility? In reality I might lose 'edit credit', as I would be effectively a new account. There are ways of proving who I am. If I did register, I think WhiteShadows said they'd need a checkuser to make sure it was me! (See prior gasbagging, thought I think that was said on User_talk:HJ_Mitchell, not sure if they were joking or not!) -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs 16:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * :) 75.137.149.46 (talk) 18:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * That is just strange. "Everyone wants you to run for president, so I'm going to step down from the role now." {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 18:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Why does eveyone want to chat at 4:45—5:20AM (AEST)! Can't be President as I am NOT US American (even born)! Mind you, in about 4 hours Oz may have a red headed, female, Welsh born Prime Minister! See Julia Gillard How did you know I looked like this? Nerd! Hmph! (nb Just saw your talkpage reply to my cmt re. username violations. Silly zxzxzxzx usernames should be Verboten! Don't know how but they should be!) -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs19:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Because it's half past seven in the morning here (so, half past seven in the evening UTC), and I'm on my way out the door to orchestra. Red hair is awesome, by the way. I would dye mine but it would look ridiculous. {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 19:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Dah dah dah dum, dah dah dah dum. UTC+12=NZST? Dont answer if you have to go, as I have to sleep! -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs19:37, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Aye. It's handy, because it's easier to convert am→pm than whatever all you guys have to do in your head to make sense of timestamps. (Sleep well? If you're sleeping in, don't worry about this message :P) {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 22:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Aye, ar me hearties! (Pirate talk?) AEST=UTC+10. Trying to sleep, 3 hours ago!, 3 hours sleep if I'm lucky as I have to be somewhere at 04:00 UTC. Toodles!-- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs22:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * and now you have your lovely red-headed PM :) How d'you feel about that? {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 10:20, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I never knew we had a new PM until I saw 220's post. I don't watch the news. I feel nothing special. It's just politics. Politicians scream, yell, argue, back-stab each other. It's fun to watch at first but it's like history repeating itself. It gets boring and ... **falls asleep**  Davtra   (talk) 10:36, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * She's taken, so as much as I like redheads--, her 'domestic partner' is a hairdresser so that's a plus. We actually have an article "Spouse of the Prime Minister of Australia". Wonder how long it's said spouse? Maybe since Gillard became deputy PM? In the "Lists of Prime Ministers of Australia" nav box it also referred to 'Prime Minister's wife 'until about 25 mins ago!. --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 12:16, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sleep? What's that? HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   23:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thats when you start a post, close your eyes for a moment and when you open them it's suddenly several hours later. -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs

Talk back
— ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  05:58, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

June 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. One or more of the external links you added in this edit to the page Northampton State Hospital do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. You may wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Falcon8765 (talk) 19:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Where are my s /Fan club / "Get a Username Cabal" when I need them?   -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs 20:13, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Asleep, in my case. And besides, if I see an IP talkpage getting templated on my watchlist, without a further glance I'm going to assume it wasn't you... :P Get an account already. Happy? ;) so  nia ♫♪ 08:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * "Asleep"? For 2 weeks?  --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 09:15, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ...uh, I hope not . A combination of sleeping, taking time out to find new music to play and write my own (it's off season for pianists, no one seems to want an accompanist now), and avoiding Wikipedia in general. Or attempting to, anyway. so  nia ♫♪ 09:28, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I've been meeting with other IP editors. I would like to introduce 69.181.249.92 to you. This IP is a good IP. It fought with user Bender176 who dislikes IP users (see the discussion pages).  Davtra   (talk) 09:30, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes I saw that, got put in the 'naughty corner' for being a dick. 69.181.249.92 has 3,125 edits in 17/18 days! Take a look at  too, they're 'famous'! Lots of edits, even had a pseudo RfA! (try this syntax out,  it looks like this .  -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs 13:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Nooo! Don't tell him that! He'll never get an account if he meets other like-minded people!  so  nia ♫♪ 09:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * TOO LATE! We are many! We are Legion!  -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs 13:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


 * All IP users will have a 100% chance of getting bullied by account users. Through this process, all IP users will end up signing up for their own account.  Davtra   (talk) 09:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * WTF Davtra?, it's all part of the Cabals masterplan to harass poor old IPs to make them sign up? I knew it! I don't think it's like that, but I don't edit in highly controversial areas, and most IPs are not 'static' like me! -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs 13:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It was a joke . I read Sonia's response and quickly made something up.  Lady Davtra   (talk) 00:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * All account users "have a 100% chance of getting bullied by account users" is as likely true! -- Lord Me (talk) \Contribs 02:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, account users are cool. Do you really want to look cool? Sign up for an account on 10 October 2010 (10/10/2010).  Davtra   (talk) 09:54, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * hmph POV! unsigne/undated commern by ME 202.101.28.25!

In regards to your question (Where are my s /Fan club / "Get a Username Cabal" when I need them?), you were forgotten. Poor little 220.101.28.25 was left alone for two weeks ... all by itself. Sometimes creating an account is good. Are you tempted to register on 10/10/10? No pressure.  Davtra  (talk) 08:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This would probably make more sense lower down or even on your talkpage, but... Davtra, I borrowed a few tools from your toolbox... ;-) <b style="color:#000">TFOW</b><b style="color:#F00">R</b> 08:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries. I think many people are using my cheatsheet ;)  Davtra   (talk) 09:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Hey what is this, a mailbox, Forum page come Bulletin Board? Watch the civility there 'itself' Davtra! Where's my 'template bat'? And where is the "Master Wiki Manual" that everyones gets these wikicodes from? (That's 'Master' not 'MisterWiki' BTW!) Not what I expected, but = apparently = -- 220.101 (talk) \Contribs 10:00, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Grammatically, it is correct. You can never, ever identify a person's gender solely by looking at its username/alias ... it's just computer text . How do you refer to a person if you don't know its gender? Use s/he (a she-he) or herself/himself? I assume you visited my user page and saw my declaration that I'm a male? If I renamed my alias to Lady Davtra ... actually, this give me an idea for my next alias (I might even rename it now! This will fool everyone ).  Davtra   (talk) 11:13, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * 'Themself' ? -- 'Itself'  (talk) \Contribs 11:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's hard, isn't it, 220?  Lady Davtra   (talk) 00:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What's 'hard'? -- Lord Me (talk) \Contribs 02:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey 220.101, you know that templates can be done with templatehere instead of having to use ? Btw, after looking at your cheatsheet and stuff, I made myself a non-admin dashboard... very incomplete but I'll work on it :) As an aside: I recently discovered how little fun being an admin is. so  nia ♫♪ 10:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * &rarr; User:Sonia/dashboard. Though as a long-time WP:RFPP stalker, I think you should stalk RFPP too ;-) I also think there should be a "Very cool" template... <b style="color:#000">TFOW</b><b style="color:#F00">R</b> 11:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Yep, it's looking good. Is there a difference between using  and  ? I can see that using   can save me some time ... especially when I redid my cheatsheet. I had to wrap the all code using   which took a while.   Davtra   (talk) 11:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The " " trick formats the template nicely - whenever I have to use  I end up sandwiching it between  s so it looks "different" to the surrounding text. And it's quicker! Oh, and with " " you end up with a link to the template, too, which is handy sometimes. <b style="color:#000">TFOW</b><b style="color:#F00">R</b> 11:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Cheers TFOWR! I started to wonder how people linked it to the template.  Davtra   (talk) 11:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * tl produces template, tlx produces, and tld produces . All the variety one could wish for! so  nia ♫♪ 01:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Wonderful! This will go into my cheatsheet.  Lady Davtra   (talk) 01:22, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * 'Lady' Davtra you have a 5 O'Clock shadow! --Lord Me (talk) \Contribs 02:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Lovely. We'll get along just fine. I just realised the mess we made on your user talk page. We'll just leave now ...   Davtra   (talk) 05:13, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


 * That little table with the latest RfA results is useful. I'm going to create my own dashboard too   Davtra   (talk) 11:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ambox important.svg<SPAN STYLE="display:none">*</SPAN> WT% On 'my' own talkpage!
 * Nope Sonia, didn't know that one, mostly I picked stuff up from what others are doing. Though <nowiki.></nowiki.> is a single menu click ↓ below(edit mode). Again, is there a master wiki syntax source? On MetaWiki maybe? ps. I 'borrowed' that sheet from someone who 'borrowed' from someone else (not my work!) Plus experimenting, see? great = * As for 'Very cool' TFOWR, I'm sure it's actually quite easy to do, esp. for an Admin! 'Template talk' would be the venue, I think? --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 11:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You could also do it using your own user space (User:Example/Template). About those edit conflicts, it's good to copy your text before clicking "Save page". I believe you will lose your reply?  Davtra   (talk) 12:00, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * You should not 'lose' anything, though I do usually copy it for easy re-pasting. I just gotta type faster! BTW facepalm = -- 'Itself'  (talk) \Contribs12:11, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Reply to Falcon at their talkpage re Northampton State Hospital
Hey Falcon, What happened to don't template the regulars? >;- ) I was actually returning an existing link that had been removed when I reverted some unsourced and rather POV edits, DIFF, which have now been returned to the article.
 * As lots of Kirkbride Buildings, the asylum was a very unpleasant place to live, with some of the brutality including lobotomies, abuse, and overcrowding. Various shock therapies, restraints, and sleep drugs were used in brutal ways to try and keep the crowded asylum under control. After the asylum was abandoned, the buildings became overgrown with vegetation and the wings of the buildings were left to slowly rot and decay until it's demolition. 

All unsourced ! Please have a look at the diff ! --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 19:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Falcon, your revert didn't actually remove the link that I (apparently) got picked up on:
 *  Color aerial photo of Old Main: http://media.photobucket.com/image/northampton%20state%20hospital/newenglandoddities/NorthamptonStateHospital-ArialVi-1.jpg ,
 * or was it the YouTube link? Anyway I have now reverted you (sorry!) and the text mentioned above (+ YouTube link) is gone. But there is a lot more similar! This article has only one source and is also(or was?) proposed for deletion! Regards and Happy Editing! --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 20:01, 28 June 2010 (UTC) (added @ 20:37, 28 June 2010 (UTC))

Get an account already!
What the header says, I suppose! My talk page is protected at the minute (more moronicness from morons!). There's an update to the software coming in at some point in the next few weeks that I hope will solve the problem, but you're the only IP who ever has a need to edit my talk page. Create yourself an account- I'll confirm you and give you rollback and reviewer on the spot. You've no idea how much easier that would make editing! HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   10:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * strong support this request for accountship; unwilling candidate will handle the (mop? dustpan? toothpick?) better than most of the accounts already existing. {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 10:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi HJ, you are keeping strange hours! Staying up to watch the soccer? Think you have vandal problems? look at what this poor editor copped between 01:41, and 02:01, 27 June 2010! Sample.
 * What about your 'threat' to "blue link my RfA"! HJ? Errggh!
 * I answered your "Sleep? What's that?" query above. Though my 'clock' has been arguing the issue with me too!
 * Can someone have a look at this re-direct Here I reverted when someone deleted it as "bullshit advertisement crap"(?) However it seems it's not working. My 'fix' attempt did'nt work. Can't figure it out. --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 12:28, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Sonia. Appreciate your support. Did you notice my Beethovens' 5th above? "Dah dah dah dum,.." Toothpick probably, never that good with mops and dustpans! (Or maybe a 'Dustbuster'?) --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 12:28, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping that the bug fix I'm waiting on will solve my vandal troubles. If you create an account and let me load you up with rights/flags/permissions/whatever politically correct term we're using now I promise I won't bluelink your RfA in the foreseeable future, how's that? As for the vandalism, I dealt with a very similar vandal this morning who created an account named [name of admin who blocked him redacted] is a f4ggot and insisted on posting his message everywhere he could think of. There was another nutter who targeted a few talk pages I stalk the other night. Y'see, your fellow anons are giving you a bad name. If you created an account, you wouldn't get "warnings", like the one above 'cos you'll have your shiny new username put on a whitelist after a while! I can even move your userpage and talk page (though sadly not your contributions) to your new username. You can always go back to being an IP if you don't like your account, or ask someone more important than me to rename you if you decide you don;t like your name! HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   12:44, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Account Hm, maybe. I'm just a "if it ain't broke" sort. (Other things going on. Username actually least of my concerns!) And I have hit 6013+ contribs! (Happy 22,173+ to You!) Must be some way to at least be credited/prove that was my IP?. I promise if I see any HJ M1tchéll or HJ Mítchell (thats a subtle one!) accounts I'll let you know. Thought I was whitelisted, or can't that be done for IPs?
 * That re-direct appears to be working now. --220.101 (talk) \Contribs 13:24, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It was working for me when you first posted it or I would fixeded it for you! I didn't know you could get an edit count for IPs! You learn something new every day! As far as I know, IPs can't be whitelisted rather like I can't load you up with lots of extra buttons to make things easier while you're an IP, but how long would it take you to create an account? Thirty seconds maybe? Then you wouldn't have to do anything more, but you'd be able to do more, like create articles, without having to ask other people. :) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   13:34, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

With the re-direct I may not have waited for it to "propagate" though the database (just a guess!) For the edit count, do one as normal, for youself say, then paste any account/IP No into the browser address bar exactly where your account name is: ...name=HJ+Mitchell&lang.... This http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=220.101.28.25&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia gives my count. You may be interested in this link re 'football hysteria' The Beeb quotes Wikipedia!--220.101 (talk) \Contribs14:23, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey HJ! As an admin, you can make this, right? Anyway, 220, there may even be a way to manually relocate your 'tribs, if the devs agree. And "if it ain't broke..."- yes, it is broke. You ain't going to lose much if you create an account, not as much as you'll lose staying- especially considering you're having flags dangled in front of you, just out of reach. So... please? {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 20:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The devs aren't known for being overly obliging, but then if you had the job of running the technical stuff on some of the web's most visited sites, I suppose you wouldn't be! 220, the second you create an account, I can make things so much easier for you. You know as well as I do how the current events articles of which you seem quite fond often end up semi protected, wouldn't you like to be able to edit them yourself? ;) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   20:32, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, get an account. There is no need to apply for adminship. We have over 1,700 administrators to work for us ... I mean to work with us ...   Davtra   (talk) 02:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Your username can even be "220.101," or "I am 220.101.28.25." πr2  ( talk  •   contributions ) 15:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC)