User talk:24.77.18.204

November 2023
Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Talk:LGBT—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 02:41, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Sorry, my bad, I'm not a frequent editor and did that accidentally. Apologies! 24.77.18.204 (talk) 02:43, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Talk:LGBT. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism can result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 02:43, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it just, I was worried I was going to offend someone, and then it seems I did, so...look, I'm sorry, I just wanted to clean up my mess, is there anything I can do? :( 24.77.18.204 (talk) 02:44, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at Talk:LGBT, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast 02:49, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm just trying to make up for a mistake. Is there no way to do this? 24.77.18.204 (talk) 02:52, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Whilst I appreciate your efforts, editing someone else's comments is usually not recommended. There is a list of exceptions listed in the same section, but I don't think editing the contents of their comment counts as one. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  02:59, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh damn it, I'm sorry, this is because I'm not a regular user: I'm the one who made the original comment (a report on an irrelevant citation while I was looking for some information), but I made it from work, and am now at home. I do this all from my laptop, but because I'm not a regular user, my IP address has changed. :/ I only want to dig out the parts that seem to have offended someone; I was hoping that would pass as "valid" and "constructive." Should I wait until tomorrow when I'm back on my work-based IP address? My apologies, that's a dumb mistake of me. :( 24.77.18.204 (talk) 03:02, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, since we're talking about it (maybe? I'm not sure?), is the comment in reply to my report itself "valid" and "constructive"? If the inflammatory bit is removed from the report, is there any reason to keep this comment here? Not that I'm suggesting I'll remove it myself, I certainly don't have that authority, I'm just curious. 24.77.18.204 (talk) 03:09, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * In that case you should consider creating an account to avoid being confused as two different people - all the edits that you make will be under one account. As for Writ's reply, I don't see anything that warrants it being removed IMO, even if they removed the bit you mentioned. Just remember that it's usually more prudent to use the reply tool than to edit someone else's comments. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  03:25, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll remember that, though I maintain that I didn't technically edit someone else's comments, I edited my own, I just didn't realize the ramifications of having changed IPs; and, they didn't edit my comment for me to "remove any bits," I edited it myself. I didn't edit any part of their comment at all, as I assumed that would be quite rude of me, and I would hope they think the same. I've only edited my own comment, except for accidentally erasing the whole thing a little while ago, which Materialscientist fixed (apologies). I'm sorry if this is getting whiney, but that user's comment felt unconstructive and unnecessarily confrontational, so I've found it very frustrating that my trying to fix my own comment in what I thought was a constructive way has been met with such resistance, while a comment that seems to be doing little more than trying to pick a fight over clumsy wording doesn't seem to have "anything that warrants it being removed." It just kind of feels like my trying to get involved has blown up in my face in a way that is actively and forcibly preventing me from fixing my comment and backing away from the whole confrontation. If I misspoke, I'd prefer to fix it and leave rather than get sucked into some venomous internet debate on identity politics with Wikipedia users, and it's mildly alarming to me that there's a conscientious effort being put forth to preserve my misstep. I'm probably not making things better this way, but I'm socially awkward and rather nonconfrontational and quite alarmed and anxious at how ludicrous this has become in such a short period of time, so I'd be terribly relieved if this whole silly issue just stopped dead. Thank you for the advice, I appreciate your help, I just meant to clarify that I haven't been sleazing around like some right-wing nutjob vandalizing articles, I'm just old and shy and not good at people and a bit panicked about this whole ridiculous schpiel. :( Again, I'm sorry, thanks for your patience with me, I appreciate it. 24.77.18.204 (talk) 03:45, 18 November 2023 (UTC)