User talk:2403:4800:745E:BD01:8F9B:2ED0:4068:9AE7

December 2022
Pages related to Kanye West need to be re-titled/moved to use his present name 'Ye' as they are currently dead naming him with 'Kanye West' as the title. If his deadname has been put in the title for searchability then it should be updated to the effect of 'Ye (formerly Kanye West)'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2403:4800:745e:bd01:8f9b:2ed0:4068:9ae7 (talk • contribs) 15:10 December 9, 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. Although Kanye West has changed his legal name to Ye, there isn't clear evidence that he views this as anything except a "nickname", nor desires to stop being referred to as Kanye West (as he still often does for himself). Kanye West is not (as far as anyone can tell) a "deadname". See especially the section at.
 * On a semi-related note, I've reverted your recent changes to Deadnaming for the time being. It's possible that the article could be expanded with use of the term in non-trans contexts, but the OED's definition doesn't sufficiently demonstrate this, and other sources continue to treat it as a predominantly transgender concept, due to the unique way trans people are affected by their deadnames. The term can be used for cisgender people like Kanye, but this is usually done as a joke, as it's clearly not the case that he is affected negatively by his "deadname".
 * Let me know if you have any questions. I'm happy to respond either here or on my talk page. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 20:36, 9 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Oh I didnt realise there would be a dynamic reply functionality XD, I replied in this user talk page 2403:4800:745E:BD01:8F9B:2ED0:4068:9AE7 (talk) 20:57, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

All good, I understand the questioning of motivations, especially due to the individual in question. The article for Ye was where I notice the inconsistency between referring to use of a previous name dealing with gender identity to be deadnaming, yet even for legal name changes, such as in Ye's case, its acceptable to still use the popular name. Clear evidence that he views this as anything except a "nickname" would be that of "a certain interview" recently where he did desire those present to refer to him as Ye, going so far as to get aggravated when refer to as Kanye. Honestly I'm just looking to increase consistency for terminology and I think its fair to assume that if someone has go so far as to change their name they probably want people to use that name, if they are still okay with the previous name being used then it (Kanye in this case) would become the pseudonym. There should definitely be acknowledgment of the significance of deadnaming for specifically the trans community, if this is perceived as eroding that then best not.