User talk:2600:1700:B2A0:4260:0:0:0:49

April 2024
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 * On page 636 of Rang and Dale's Pharmacology textbook 9th edition (2020) it specifically refers to alcohol being a depressant drug that acts primarily via enhancement of both GABA- and glycine-mediated inhibition, inhibition of Ca2+ entry through voltage-gated calcium channels, activation of certain types of K+ channel, inhibition of ionotropic glutamate receptor function, and inhibition of adenosine transport. This is not some "nonconstructive or frivolous edit".  Wikipedia is supposed to be unbiased and accurate and as you know words have meaning.  The way we phrase things has meaning especially when society has an inaccurate view of pharmacology in general.  This conversation around substance use so often devolves into opinion which is not based on any fact.  Please at least reconsider the part that implies that ethanol is not a drug for the sake of medical accuracy.  Ethanol has a serious occasionally life threatening withdrawal syndrome and even the wikipedia article about ethanol refers to it as a drug with a very serious withdrawal syndrome principally due to an imbalance of GABA and glutamate leading to toxic excitotoxicity.
 * Furthermore, the National Institute on "Drug Abuse" will likely be changing it's name soon because it is an inaccurate, misleading and frankly stigmatizing term. How would you feel if your loved one was referred to in stigmatizing inaccurate terms for having type 2 diabetes?  I do not know the person mentioned in this article however my point is that it does everyone a disservice to talk about things in inaccurate ways.
 * Did you know that things like mental health conditions were once refereed to as "mental hygiene"? In fact in New York unfortunately, they still refer to their Department of Health as The New York Department Of Health and Mental Hygiene.  This is very cruel, inaccurate and an archaic way of wording this topic.  This is not about language "policing", this is about accurate terminology to protect public health.  Can you truly say that it is not constructive to correct someone who refers to someone with bipolar disorder as simply "having bad mental hygiene".  That used to be the phrasing that used to be used to refer to people with a brain disorder like bipolar disorder.
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_(drug)
 * https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/about/about-doh.page
 * https://www.drugscience.org.uk/drug-information/alcohol/#1551449010537-a0e245c1-fe36
 * https://nida.nih.gov/sites/default/files/nida_fy_2024_cj_chapter.pdf Directors Overview, Page 3 specifically talks about the term "drug abuse".
 * We have an entire subset of the population who wrongly believes that alcohol (ethanol) is safe or at least relatively safe and wrongly thinks that other drugs are not even close to being at the same danger level and this phrasing used in the article I edited is exactly what I am talking about. In reality ethanol is an extremely toxic drug especially due to the metabolite acetaldehyde and as a result in many ways ethanol's absorption, metabolism and excretion are uniquely toxic. In fact even the wikipedia article about ethanol specifically mentions that it is a depressant drug so why not be consistent?
 * I can reword some of what I said and post some sources on the article if you want but I think the way this article was worded really shows how far we have to come in correcting language that simply have no place in an encyclopedia that is supposed to pride itself on accuracy. Please at least reconsider the separation of alcohol from other drugs because it is harming public perception and I see it constantly in people in relation how they believe quitting alcohol after extended heavy use is no big deal because "it is not a drug" despite the fact that I referenced earlier in a link that it has a severe withdrawal syndrome (in some cases even life threatening) at least in some cases of relatively heavy use and it meets every definition of a drug regardless of if it had a withdrawal syndrome or not.  Even though "drug abuse" is also inaccurate I can live with that being kept in the article if you are insistent I suppose, however please do not allow society to be told falsehoods about how ethanol is not a drug. That is the main point that I think needs to be emphasized, these inaccurate statements create long standing rifts in society and I believe Wikipedia should be better than that. 2600:1700:B2A0:4260:0:0:0:49 (talk) 02:01, 6 April 2024 (UTC)