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I notice that the draft Peter Gena article is your only contribution. Do you have a conflict of interest to declare? Please don't write about yourself, your friends or relatives and read the guidance below:


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Your text was a clear copyright violation of his website. I can't give you the percentage since the plagiarism script doesn't work on deleted pages, but it would have been more than 70%. It's pretty obvious anyway, since copied text is always lacking in wikilinks to eg DNA, computer programming Chicago etc. For legal reasons we don't restore copyright text.

Your references include his own website and other affiliated sources, we need independent third-party sources, not him talking about himself. You also need to look at the notability criteria more closely to see what is relevant. For example As a pianist he has publicly performed many of his own works as well as those of others may well be true, but it's what pianists do, it's not a criterion for notability. You could also look at some existing music bios

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above.

Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:27, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

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User:Jimfbleak Hi, this composer/writer is a historic figure in the history of American music, his scores/papers/etc. are held by a major US university in perpetuity, and participated in events in American experimental of national and historic importance. He is not a personal friend. I did answer the COI question when creating the article. Also, I am not the individual. I am a researcher in the field, publishing with Oxford University Press. I am happy to add further notations to a submission that include inline Wikipedia links to "DNA" etc. as well as outside sources. This composer's archives with SUNY Buffalo were sourced, as well as articles in The Chicago Reader, and other sources. I will submit with no sources from the website. The draft could be improved by rewording, I suppose, the language of similar articles is similar, "...is an American compsoser, perfomer, etc." "Has been honors from the Kennedy Center and the Smithsonian Museums" "Has collaborated with ___ on music that examines and explores ___" "is active in the areas of __". I have a sense that you thought the writer was the composer. This was not the case. Here, there was too much reliance on the composer's website, is what I can tell, and also that the language was considered too similar to the language of the "bio" page of the composer's site.2601:18E:8201:7B50:8CF0:92F4:C355:F40 (talk) 20:35, 29 December 2021 (UTC) Experimental music Historian 2601:18E:8201:7B50:8CF0:92F4:C355:F40 (talk) 20:35, 29 December 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18E:8201:7B50:20ED:A659:1FB4:D1BA (talk) 17:19, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * If you want me to be aware of messages like this, as well as linking my user name, you have to sign them in the same edit.


 * Thank you for clarifying your status. Editors of biographies are often the individual concerned or their management, so you are bound to be asked about COI. Underlinking wasn't a reason for deletion, just a comment. Notability isn't the concern, just the copyright issue. If you want to check your text, use earwig Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  13:33, 30 December 2021 (UTC)