User talk:2601:1C2:1801:D80:7500:EB24:9EEA:84AF

You may have seen something that I haven't, and if so then I will be grateful if you can tell me what, but on the face of it, the following seems to be the case: Am I missing something? JBW (talk) 21:09, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) As the editor says, TheAmazingPeanuts was as much edit-warring as this editor, but you blocked only one of them.
 * 2) This editor had self-reverted their last edit on the article, with an edit summary indicating that they were giving up on the edit-war, more than 12 hours before the block, making it difficult to see how the block could be preventive.
 * I came across Utopia (Travis Scott album) from a request at WP:RFPP, and when I reviewed the history of the article I concluded that the editor on this IP is the same as Special:Contributions/216.227.248.208 a few days prior, since 216 is a proxy, and since 2601's first edit after a few days idle was restoring the other IP's unsourced contributions. With that other IP I saw this as a sustained edit-war over several days, and since my mind was on the protection request I saw blocking the IP as a means to limit disruption to the article, rather than protection which would have had more collateral damage. TheAmazingPeanuts also alleged (on User talk:NinjaRobotPirate) that this editor is a sock of an old LTA; I didn't investigate that because I didn't think the allegation had merit and TheAmazingPeanuts seemed to be fishing. In retrospect I think you are right that I should have also blocked TheAmazingPeanuts, as their six reverts were nowhere even in the vicinity of what would be excepted under WP:3RRNO nor did they claim that they were. please take this as a warning, this is not a mistake I will repeat.
 * I will unblock momentarily. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:31, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The editor claims that the song "Meltdown" from the album Utopia is a single, but I don't see any sources that support that claim. Singles need to be supported by sources that are considered reliable, such as All Access, the Official Charts Company, EarOne, and Airplay Control (WP:SINGLE?); none of these sources have "Meltdown" as a single. When the editor did add sources to the article, they weren't reliable , and one of them didn't explicitly mention "Meltdown" as a single . Why should I be blocked for reverting unsourced or poorly sourced content? TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 01:50, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, this whole debacle has made me wonder something more... what even is the classification of a single in the streaming era? Especially in the case of Wikipedia album pages.
 * As someone who looks at these articles to get a concise picture of albums and what led up to the release (and of course, after the release), it doesn't make sense to hear a song several times a day on the radio and not assume it is the single in the case of Meltdown. And because I'm not the first person to edit the Utopia article to reflect this, it's clear I'm not alone in this thought process.
 * In my case, again, Meltdown is listed as a Travis Scott single on Travis Scott's discography page. DELRESTO (ECHOES) is as well. And while Meltdown is getting handsome airplay right now, neither of those 2 songs have had official radio add dates. But both are their own individual tracks (aka singles) on digital platforms. DELRESTO (ECHOES) has weak sources pertaining to it's status as a single as well (Currently a Teen Vogue article mentioning the fact that the track was released as a single, nothing about radio play, and a link to a digital platform (Apple Music?) which I removed but apparently there is no question towards it's status as a single. "I KNOW ?" is a song from Utopia that's also getting radio play, and is among the most added songs at Rhythmic radio right now according to AllAccess, but no adds date. Each of these songs have an argument in their favor as a single. My question is what is keeping them from all being singles on the Utopia page?
 * No offense at all to @TheAmazingPeanuts, but going off their history in these pages, they seem to be the main, if not only one judging what is and what is not a single, despite them saying themselves that this isn't something they're good at judging.
 * By the criteria, the only song that seems to be considered a single off the album is "K-pop". And my apologies if this is the wrong place to place my concern, again, still learning as I go. But will it be one, two, all or none when it comes to classifying these songs as singles? I'm genuinely lost. 2601:1C2:1801:D80:7500:EB24:9EEA:84AF (talk) 02:31, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't look at the discography pages and classify "Meltdown" as a single; Wikipedia itself can be classified as an unreliable source as well. That's why we use sources here. Speaking of "Delresto (Echoes)", I think the song is considered a single because it has a cover art and several websites have called it a single. And Apple Music can sometimes be used as a source for release dates and nothing else, which is why it was in the Utopia article in the first place. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 03:58, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * this is actually very simple: WP:3RR is a bright line rule, which means if you violate it, you are blocked. There is an exception for reverting obvious vandalism, which is clearly defined as an edit which any user would agree was intended to be harmful. Any good faith edit intended to improve the encyclopedia is not vandalism (see WP:VANDAL), and that includes adding content without a source. The next time you find yourself in a situation like this, you can start a discussion about the contested material on the talk page, request dispute resolution, or if the other editor is unresponsive you can request page protection (which you did), or post at the edit warring noticeboard or the administrators' noticeboard for incidents. Do not just keep reverting, or you will be blocked for edit warring. You also do not get three "free" reverts - the bright-line rule is more than three reverts on one page within 24 hours, but you can be found to be edit warring without violating that rule, for example if you wait just a bit longer than 24 hours and revert again, if you keep reverting over a long period of time, or if you're making no effort to resolve the situation other than reverting.
 * As for the content issue, you should be discussing on the article's talk page. Your discussion might be useful to other editors on that article, and it won't be easy to find buried here on an IP's talk page. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:24, 16 September 2023 (UTC)