User talk:2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:3D59:D0D0:DE59:1F8F

January 2024
Hi 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:3D59:D0D0:DE59:1F8F! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Bank of America Stadium several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree&#32;at, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 07:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Well User:Daniel Quinlan what do you suggest in this instance? When I started trying to get more experience in this area I remember being instructed that the correct action was to warn until Template:uw-unsourced4 was reached and then report to AIV. I do not remember all the specifics that was probably 100+ talk pages ago, but that was the gist. That seemed a little harsh to me, and usually as long as someone is making any progress I don't want to see them blocked.
 * But there is a difficulty when someone refuses to communicate entirely either on talk pages or in edit summaries. So I was going to report to AIV but then they started at least posting on discussion pages. Sure it was nonsense, but it was some progress however minimal. Then they stopped communicating, but there was another start again so I don't know. I'm hoping they will eventually start engaging but I do not know how to force someone to communicate.
 * So if you want me to leave this one alone, well OK then, hoaxes have lasted for years on Wikipedia and caused no serious problems so I can easily ignore it without worry. But it would be nice if you had an alternative resolution, preferably one that encouraged meaningful exchange on the talk page. There are times when it is logical to retain unsourced or failed verification content and I try to be reasonable if someone can offer a good explanation, but that is difficult when no explanation at all is forthcoming. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:C9C1:FCCC:937A:BBAC (talk) 23:11, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * If someone else is edit warring, then reporting it to WP:ANEW is the appropriate action if they are ignoring warnings to not edit war. Note that another editor involved in this dispute was temporarily blocked for edit warring and other bad behavior.
 * But the first steps should always be communication (civil and helpful edit summaries plus talk page discussions) and then dispute resolution if needed. It can also help to be more specific and detailed in subsequent edits rather than less. For this case, explaining why the other source fails verification would probably be helpful.
 * Looking again, I can see another IP address left a talk page comment and perhaps that was you. If that's the case, then you were doing some of the right things, but you still want to do everything you can to avoid an edit war, and this is another point in favor of creating an account. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes that was me, most of what comes from this range is me, I made several attempts to communicate, all of them were ignored or received only inscrutable replies. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:C9C1:FCCC:937A:BBAC (talk) 00:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You might also consider creating an account. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 08:31, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I have, I mean there are advantages and disadvantages. The only one that makes me even consider it is being able to keep one talk page, but there is probably some technical way to keep IPs from changing and a lot of other IP editors do not have that problem. I really do not want to create any social expectation that I will be around and available to help or responsive on demand especially as I will have many long periods this year when I do not expect to edit at all. There are other issues but I would rather not waste your time with a long explanation. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:C9C1:FCCC:937A:BBAC (talk) 23:16, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think creating an account creates any kind of unreasonable expectation that you'll be around, but it does make it easier to communicate when you are around and people seem to be more inclined to have a conversation when they know the other person is more likely to see a notification. People come and go all of the time. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)