User talk:2A00:1288:EF6A:32:0:0:0:1001

July 2022
Hello. Your recent edit appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. MrOllie (talk) 00:39, 27 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the observation @MrOllie- can I ask for some advice. Many of the products currently in this list are *less notable* than the product I added. I presume this isn't a relevant metric in determining notability overall? (fwiw I don't believe AfD would be worthwhile for those products - keeping them is fine). 2A00:1288:EF6A:32:0:0:0:1001 (talk) 00:43, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Notability as it is used on Wikipedia is defined at WP:N. MrOllie (talk) 00:49, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * After you also deleted the issue template I added to the same article, I've reviewed your user edit history and your talk page archives and it appears your primary contribution to Wikipedia is reverting edits & deleting content you deem to be either COI or redlinks. I have yet to find the WP policy that forbids redlinks in lists. As redlinks are useful as a prompt to create articles on notable topics, I would appreciate a link to whatever policy you think you're enforcing here.
 * I'll also revert your deletion of the relevant cleanup tag - that was not in violation of any policy. 2A00:1288:EF6A:32:0:0:0:1001 (talk) 00:53, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Further to the above, I've also re-read WP:N on your prompt. I note (a) Notability and also under (b) [] it says "The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been"
 * As per those above sections, notability is not required for inclusion within the list. I will add that this particular product is notable: I believe it should have a Wikipedia article, but requiring me to write said article before I am permitted to contribute useful and beneficial context to this list page is an unreasonable request. 2A00:1288:EF6A:32:0:0:0:1001 (talk) 01:04, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Cleanup tags are not a place to add your opinion of the article - that is what the talk page is for. Different lists have different inclusion criteria - that list is a list of things that have preexisting Wikipedia articles. You would probably benefit from a read of Write the article first. MrOllie (talk) 01:06, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The cleanup tag has (and recommends using) the `reason` parameter for stating the reason cleanup is recommended. If you think this information is too subjective you should take this up with the maintainers of that tag. If you have some personal reason for disagreeing with the stated reason, the detail populated within that cleanup tag was objective and descriptive, so I welcome your edits to the reason. If you think the article does not need cleanup, please say so.
 * If you believe this particular list has a specific inclusion criteria that differs from the links Wikipedia policy page, please provide a link to that stated criteria. In absence of such, your edits are purely destructive and unwarranted. 2A00:1288:EF6A:32:0:0:0:1001 (talk) 01:11, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Write the article first Is an essay stating an editors opinion. Please don't use it to defend your edits as policy. 2A00:1288:EF6A:32:0:0:0:1001 (talk) 01:12, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If I am being 'destructive' feel free to report that to WP:ANI. But now that the attacks are starting up, I am done here - do not restore the cleanup tag or the redlinked list entry without getting a consensus first. Thanks. MrOllie (talk) 01:13, 27 July 2022 (UTC)