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Happy editing! HiLo48 (talk) 02:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Olmedo/Segura nationality
What we know is that as amateurs, they played for the United States. Olmedo even played Davis Cup for the United States. In their original draws they are listed as playing for the United States. What we don't know is when they were playing on pro circuit, what country they were listed under. It may have varied depending on location. Amateurs...USA. Pro...maybe USA maybe Ecuador or Peru. Fyunck(click) (talk) 03:09, 31 December 2020 (UTC) many years after 1958
 * We know the citizenship dates when they acquired U.S. citizenship, which is what the flags represent. Olmedo many years after 1958, Segura 1991. We know that Segura played for Ecuador in the pro Kramer Cup in the early 1960's, there is no doubt about that. Presumably Segura represented Ecuador in the Davis Cup as an amateur, and did not play on the U.S. Davis Cup team. Segura acquired U.S. citizenship in 1991. Olmedo played for Peru in the Kramer Cup professional series in the early 1960's, not the U.S. team. Olmedo played for the U.S. Davis Cup team in 1958 as a U.S. resident with Peruvian citizenship, which was allowed by the rules of that time. Tennisedu (talk) 04:41, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, no flags represent citizenship at all... for any tennis player. That is very specific. It represents the sports nationality the player played under during their careers. Original draws at majors usually tell us these things as does Davis/Fed Cup. Olmedo played for the US as an amateur, there is no doubt about that. Segura played for the US at the 1946 French Championships. It's what they played under as a professional that we don't always know. The promoters may have changed things depending on the location. Fyunck(click) (talk) 10:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * We know that Segura and Olmedo plyed for Ecuador and Peru in the Kramer Cup competitions from 1961 through 1963......that was their nationality of choice. I believe that Segura played Davis Cup for Ecuador. Olmedo was permitted to play Davis Cup for US because Peru had no Davis Cup team, otherwise he would have had to play Davis Cup for Peru.Tennisedu (talk) 17:45, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * So what we would tend to do is show Segura as playing for Ecuador as a pro and USA as an amateur. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:08, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * There ultimately needs to be a common consensus as to what country these guys played for. There are multiple contradictions on draws and other articles that show different nationalities. Some Wimbledon draws still show Olmedo and Segura as playing for Peru and Ecuador as amateurs. If we are suggesting that Olmedo and Segura played for their native countries as pros or the U.S. as amateurs then please don't undo edits. As for Segura as an amateur, I'm still rather unsure whether he did play for the U.S. Unlike Olmedo he never played for the U.S. in Davis Cup and both the ATP and ITF list him as an Ecuadorian competitor. Either way, if we are coming to a common consensus that they played for the U.S. as amateurs and for Peru and Ecuador as pros then keep it as such unless there are multiple sources that suggest otherwise. Due to the fact this was a while back it is slightly difficult to say as they may have been recorded depending on where they played as already mentioned. --Xc4TNS (talk) 03:05, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I won't change back any of the pro events. Fyunck(click) (talk) 15:15, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * There is no question that Segura and Olmedo represented their countries of citizenship (Ecuador and Peru) as both amateurs and pros whenever there was a team fielded by their nations. If there was no Davis Cup team, as in 1958 for Peru, then Olmedo could play for U.S. But if Peru had fielded a DC team in 1958, Olmedo would have been required to represent Peru, not U.S. So there is no question about representation here. The flags are not a choice for us. They must reflect the citizenship and Davis Cup requirements.Tennisedu (talk) 18:39, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually there is no question that Segura and Olmedo played under the US flag as amateurs per the contemporary printed draws. The four majors also listed them as USA, not Ecuador and Peru. There may have been some events where that differed, but not in the majors. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)