User talk:2A01:CB1C:B93:7700:F7BC:65AE:3944:B153

September 2023
Hello, I'm Grumpylawnchair. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Sutomo seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. <span style="background-color:black; color:white; padding: 1.5px; Grumpylawnchair  ( talk ) 01:44, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes you made an important mistake. Sutomo was military leader of the Islamic Ansor militias during the 1965 purges. During which he encouraged atrocities against communists accused of being immoral atheists/kafir, as well as against Christian minorities. For the same religious reasons.
 * Please add this information as it is crucial for truthful historiography. And an element that should never be forgotten. 2A01:CB1C:B93:7700:F7BC:65AE:3944:B153 (talk) 01:50, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Maybe--but instead of adding properly written text, in a neutral tone, supported by recourse to secondary sources, you simply added a poorly written accusation without any support. We're an encyclopedia, not a chatroom. Drmies (talk) 01:54, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If you have a reliable source for this, you are welcome to add it again it with said source as a reference. I only reverted your edit on the basis that it was an exceptional claim without a source to back it up. <span style="background-color:black; color:white; padding: 1.5px; Grumpylawnchair  ( talk ) 01:54, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The sources are not public domain. And censored by the Indonesian government ie. eyewitness account, classified documents etc. Should that be a reason for the truth to remain undisclosed..is Wikipedia simply an Indonesian government propaganda site and time-wasting chatroom or a genuine objective truthseeking database. 2A01:CB1C:B93:7700:F7BC:65AE:3944:B153 (talk) 02:02, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. WP:Verifiability is a pillar of the project. If the information cannot be verified, it cannot be added to Wikipedia. —C.Fred (talk) 02:04, 29 September 2023 (UTC)