User talk:2A02:8388:16C2:5D00:D917:83C1:6F:59DB

January 2023
Hi 2A02:8388:16C2:5D00:D917:83C1:6F:59DB! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of an article several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:02, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I was just clarifying misleading/wrong references to various word origins. 2A02:8388:16C2:5D00:D917:83C1:6F:59DB (talk) 16:07, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * They're clearly not wrong if they're backed by academic sources, unless you know of other academic sources that say otherwise? --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:24, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * [Even] Google translate will tell you that this is wrong => "salib" (or slightly modified form "saqalib" here) simply means cross (as well as "tzlaf", which sounds a lot like "Slav" I know, in Hebrew, also means cross, but that is a word much older than the first mentions of the ethnic group) and definitely not "Slav" (arab: sulaf), why should the word "Cross" refer to a population that was not even Christianized during the Caliphates peak and which settled more than 2000 km away from the "al Andalus"? It referred to Christians (the ones of the crucifix), which were available in much closer vicinity and as the linked articles describe often traded by Jewish merchants. 2A02:8388:16C2:5D00:D917:83C1:6F:59DB (talk) 16:37, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * by the way that Hebrew word is also the best candidate as origin of "slave", since it rarely happens that a word used by the group itself for itself gets to become the general term for it? Veneti being the most common term used for the Slavs by almost every ethnic group around them:
 * Old English: Winedas;
 * Old Norse: Vindr;
 * German: Wend, Winden;
 * Danish: vendere;
 * Swedish: vender;
 * Polish: Wendowie
 * Latin: Veneti,    Venedi, Venethi
 * Greek: Ουενεδαι (Ouenedai)
 * would have been a candidate for such a term, but no some (germano centric) scholars want to explain that a term not used/known by anyone until the 18th century is the origin of a word that is then even translated wrong from Arabic (in this article) and not the much more regular Hebrew (also a Semitic language) word for (Christian crucifix) "[t]zlaf" is the base for something -> really, nice try?
 * But as I said I am just simply referring to wrong translations in the article. Btw you can also Google translate crucifix to Hebrew (and Arabic) yourself to check that as well, if you don't believe me. 2A02:8388:16C2:5D00:D917:83C1:6F:59DB (talk) 17:03, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * This is 50-60+ years old history theory pushed by some teutonic historians, just as "the Greeks" did not mention the "Sclaveni" (and when doing so these were not related to the tzlaf of the cross) but Jordanes mentions three and Procopius two barbarian groups ("Antes", "Sclaveni" and "Venethi", back then Venethi being the most common reference to generally Slavic tribes), so Sclaveni probably only referring to a single tribe near Greece that used the Slavic term for word for itself 2A02:8388:16C2:5D00:D917:83C1:6F:59DB (talk) 16:47, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:22, 31 January 2023 (UTC)