User talk:2A02:AA1:1149:DE4D:201F:B9B:5945:9577

Controversy on black belt degree
In editing comments, claims have been made that the controversy are unproven and only opinion. There has also been the claim that a verification on Beltchecker is evidence for a higher claimed black belt degree. These comments are answered below and anyone who can show any bit of evidence that Remco was promoted to (not just competed with others with) black belt in BJJ in 1996 are encouraged to add their sources.

"rv recent changes over controversy are unproven and state opinion of an individual over fact. Until there is agreement, this needs to be left out. undo Tags: Manual revert references removed"

This counter claim has no evidence at all attached to it and ignores the many sources added in the controversy section.

"The change is 4th dan to 6th Dan. This is verified by BJJ Beltchecker".

On BJJ Beltchecker, anyone can claim any degree. Remco initially claimed a no degree black belt, which many members voted to verify, without reflecting on the date attached to the degree. This later made it possible for Remco to use BJJ Beltchecker's built in automatic verification (without votes already case being prompted to review their previous vote) for claiming degrees on black belt based purely on time since his claimed promotion date for black belt. The legitimacy of this degree still builds on the original black belt date being correct. Previously mentioned sources show the date is in fact not correct. These sources include old interviews with Remco, where he claims other degrees (no degree even) than black. Sources also show Remco competing as a purple belt in BJJ in 2005, which would of course not had been allowed if he had been a black belt at that point in time. 2A02:AA1:1149:DE4D:201F:B9B:5945:9577 (talk) 08:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)