User talk:2D0D2P3

December 2023
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Hsiao Bi-khim, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Butterdiplomat (talk) 16:23, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to President of the Republic of China, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you would like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. &mdash; Mdaniels5757 (talk &bull; contribs) 18:32, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to President of the Republic of China, you may be blocked from editing. &mdash; Mdaniels5757 (talk &bull; contribs) 18:52, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Can you read Chinese? I am just synchronize what the content from the Chinese version. Please stop to provide the wrong information. CCL2023 (talk) 19:00, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to engage in subtle vandalism by making unexplained changes to information, as you did at Hsiao Bi-khim, you may be blocked from editing. Butterdiplomat (talk) 22:05, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I know you can read Chinese. Could you synchronize the Chinese content and the English content of ROC (Taiwan)? CCL2023 (talk) 22:08, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The English-language Wikipedia has its own naming conventions, as decided via consensus over the years. Please refrain from further vandalism simply because you personally would like something to be worded a certain way. The common name convention dictates that we use Taiwan for any modern-day ROC references primarily. Butterdiplomat (talk) 22:12, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Hsiao Bi-khim --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 20:02, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Although Taiwan official name is Republic of China, e.g. quoting WP:COMMONNAME North Korea (not: Democratic People's Republic of Korea) per WP:COMMONNAME the convention is just succinctly Taiwan. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 18:02, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cat12zu3
 * Thanks for pointing out the official name of Taiwan as the Republic of China (ROC). You may not like it. However, this name is stamped in Taiwanese passport. You may not like, but it is THE FACT. Meanwhile, I did check the link of WP:COMMONNAME. I did not find any information related to Taiwan. Meanwhile, we are talking about “nationality”. This means an official name of a country. If you can read the old-fashioned Chinese character in the National Seal of ROC. You will see that there is NO name called “Taiwan” in the National Seal of ROC. Moreover, you can check this link of “https://english.president.gov.tw/” and you will the correct name to represent Taiwanese nationality. Please do not use those false information and continue changing my correction. I am not part any cyber team. I am just a citizen to do the right thing. CCL2023 (talk) 19:01, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:COMMONNAME applys to all not just North Korea. North Korea (DPRK) is one of the example in the WP:COMMONNAME, so the established standard per WP:COMMONNAME is still Taiwan despite ROC. Any other way is not constructive. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 19:11, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cat12zu3
 * Again, you are try to twist a country name. This is not good practice. CCL2023 (talk) 19:16, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cat12zu3
 * Do you like someone to call your nickname or common name in the public or in the ceremony when your nickname or common name that has special meaning to you? In general thumb-up rule, it is safe to use or to be called your official name. If has changed or upgraded or updated its official name to “Taiwan”. I will follow this change. CCL2023 (talk) 19:25, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cat12zu3@Butterdiplomat@Mdaniels5757
 * It is a long history between and 🇹🇼. For me, I would go for the official name. The common name or naming convention rule can not be used for representing someone’s nationality. To follow your naming or common rule, you can call a Taiwanese as a Formosan or an Islander. However, those names are not official and they can not be used. I enjoyed the conversation with yours. I hope you can respect the official name of a country. CCL2023 (talk) 19:14, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The article Taiwan do mentioned about long official name of Republic of China, however in Wikipedia we do have standard in writing article, WP:COMMONNAME is the established norm...to name it brevity/concisely. So it would be South Korea and Taiwan not Republic of Korea not Republic of China --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 19:23, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Please don't..that would be disruptive...had explained to you about WP:COMMONNAME...making such changes would be really disruptive... --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 19:29, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cat12zu3
 * Passing the right and correct information is never a disruptive action. Instead of my action, your suggestion to change an official name of a country is not good practice. CCL2023 (talk) 19:35, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cat12zu3
 * I am apologize that you keep using other countries’ name as an example. I did check your link WP:COMMONNAME, I did not find any information about Taiwan. Please point out a correct link. Please stop using this common rule to twist the official name of a country. CCL2023 (talk) 19:30, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Had already explained to you about what's in WP:COMMONNAME, one of the examples there is North Korea which should be North Korea not long form official name Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Bill Clinton not long form William Jefferson Clinton, Westminster Abbey not long form Collegiate Church of Saint Peter at Westminster...if you don't understand what established standard WP:COMMONNAMES...then I don't know what else to explain to you. My advice is don't keep changing, that would be unconstructive, and might get taken corrective action, including corrective actions per those existing warnings listed here --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 19:49, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cat12zu3
 * OMG. The action of using the correct and right information by using an official country’s name to represent the nationality of a citizen from that country is “unconstructive” and will be suffered a corrective action. If this is case, I will thanks the GOD to show me this. CCL2023 (talk) 20:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cat12zu3
 * Thanks for pointing out this naming convention link to me. Again, I checked and I COULD NOT any information related to 🇹🇼 or . It is reference link. It is not official unless I see the proof from Wiki Oversight or Wikipedia foundation and he/she states all English version Wiki pages that should use “Taiwan” to replace “the Republic of China”. In this case, I will follow it. Indeed, it is not good practice to mess up someone’s official country name. CCL2023 (talk) 19:56, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Hsiao Bi-khim --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 20:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Cat12zu3
 * You are acting as the GOD to make the decision to block someone’s contribution to Wikipedia because someone is not agree your rule. In my knowledge, I know Taiwanese are always proud of being in a free country with a free speech to speak-up. In this case, I am telling you that you should not mess up someone’s nationality with unofficial country name. CCL2023 (talk) 20:14, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cat12zu3
 * No worry. You win. You did not need threat me with those discipline/administrative actions. I am a newbie to the wiki community.
 * I give you my permission to block my editing. I can not be the GOD. My guess that you might doing this for the living as a member of Network, Internet or Cyber Army.
 * I am not. I am just a citizen or civilian and try to provide the correct and right information for representing an official name of a country. Indeed, it is the great conversation with you for this topic.
 * Having a good day.
 * Long live Taiwan, Long live . CCL2023 (talk) 20:40, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Hsiao Bi-khim. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 10:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively, you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
 * If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, please seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Fu Kun-chi. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 10:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively, you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
 * If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, please seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Alexander Yui. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 10:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively, you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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 * Hello? Can come to Talk:Hsiao Bi-khim? I saw you just add Republic of China (Taiwan) (Special:Diff/1189518240), which seemed like a good WP:NPOV compromise to WP:COMMONNAME. Can put Republic of China (Taiwan) instead? Please come to Talk:Hsiao Bi-khim to reply. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 10:59, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello. I have noticed that you edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in your preferences. Thanks! --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 16:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Cat12zu3
 * thanks so much. A lot of a thing to learn as a wiki newbie. CCL2023 (talk) 17:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Cat12zu3. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Hsiao Bi-khim, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Addition of unsourced or improperly cited material - adding irrelevant source --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 16:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Cat12zu3
 * Thanks for the suggestion. I learn this reference style from the Chinese version of Hsiao Bi-khim. Regarding to the reference sources, is a video or image acceptable in the English version?
 * I checked the link Help:Referencing for beginners. It seems there is no official style. In this case, I will take what I see from Wikipedia. To cite my supporting materials from the official websites or links, here is my source code:
 * Republic of China (Taiwan)
 * Can you help me fixing any error or missing part in my code? Any suggestion is welcome. Thanks for your help in advance. CCL2023 (talk) 16:58, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That source link about National day celebration is not relevant to her nationality --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 17:00, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cat12zu3
 * In the wiki page of Hsiao Bi-khim, “Hsiao served as the Taiwanese representative to the United States from 2020 to 2023.” This means that Ms. Hsiao was officially appointed this government position by Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Republic of China (Taiwan). One of essential and fundamental questions for a citizen to served as Republic of China (Taiwan) government officer is that the citizenship of Republic of China (Taiwan) is required. In addition, Ms. Hsiao can NOT hold another country citizenship when she served any official or government position in Republic of China (Taiwan).
 * In this case, the photo from that web source showed the evidence of Ms. Hsiao’s citizenship. CCL2023 (talk) 17:23, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That looks like infering it...which is an original research...WP:No original research --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 17:31, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That looks like infering it...which is an original research...WP:No original research --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 17:31, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at National seals of the Republic of China, you may be blocked from editing. (previously given Uw-disruptive2 & Uw-disruptive1)(improper sentence in intro in a rush to edit rapidly)
 * If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
 * If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

Talk:Taiwan
Please see the edit notification, the third one on the page, that says ""Changes to the article to refer to Taiwan as a state, island, province of China, or other definition are not permitted and may be reverted". Thank you. Also, please make sure you are logged in when you're editing (or edit warring, as the case may be). Drmies (talk) 17:35, 12 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Drmies
 * I am apologize that I do not provide the edit summary as a a wiki newbie.
 * I know the difference between “Taiwan” and “Republic of China (China)”. I am taking the official name from an official government link: “
 * https://english.president.gov.tw”. CCL2023 (talk) 18:07, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, don't take the official name from an official government link. That's not how Wikipedia works. Drmies (talk) 18:08, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Drmies
 * Are you sure about this “Yeah, don't take the official name from an official government link. That's not how Wikipedia works.”?
 * I respect you are a wiki contributor. I am trying to do my best to contribute the wiki pages with official information source from a country to increase the credibility of the wiki content. CCL2023 (talk) 18:14, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I am also an administrator, and no, you are not trying your best. Drmies (talk) 18:15, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Drmies
 * Thanks so much for sharing this information “as an administrator” to me. Indeed, I did do my best in my own standard. Please do not try to discredit me as a wiki newbie. CCL2023 (talk) 18:23, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Consider this your final warning. If you make such edits again (this or this) I will simply block you. You may discuss the matter on the relevant talk page, but you need to stop disrupting these articles. Drmies (talk) 18:10, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Drmies
 * Please do so if you think my editing is from the false source and the wrong information. Otherwise, I will do my best to provide the right or correct information in the correct way.
 * Thanks so much for your warning. CCL2023 (talk) 18:18, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. You are edit warring and violating our guidelines for editing those specific articles. This is blatantly obvious and has nothing to do with content--and I am not going to discuss political or national issues with you. Drmies (talk) 18:21, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Drmies
 * I understand this and well noticed: “I am not going to discuss political or national issues with you”. So, please let us back to square one.
 * What is the problem from my editing? Do I provide the wrong or false information? Do I reference to inappropriate information source? Do I use the wrong writing style? Please share your input to me. I would like to learn. CCL2023 (talk) 18:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

December 2023
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at National seals of the Republic of China. (previously given Uw-disruptive3,Uw-disruptive2,Uw-disruptive1,and this edit undone towards to an admin despite guideline and policy --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 19:09, 12 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Cat12zu3
 * Thanks for doing this. You certainly have the right to do so to keep me out the wiki community.
 * I enjoy the conversation with you and I learn a lot from our conversation. I hope one day you can come back Taiwan again.
 * Taiwan-related information should determine or define by its own people with the official information. Your action just told me that the fate or destiny of Taiwan was not on its own hands. CCL2023 (talk) 19:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * well I'm just an ordinary guy (or girl sometimes) even though I'm 50+, ordinary IT programmer....personal attack (WP:NPA) like "I'm part of Cyber Army"...I'm ain't... --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 19:36, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cat12zu3
 * Again, thanks for your help. I learn a lot from you. Indeed, you share a lot useful information to me. CCL2023 (talk) 19:40, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * hmm...well I'm just an ordinary boy (or girl sometimes) even though I'm 50+, ordinary IT programmer....personal attack (WP:NPA) like "I'm part of Cyber Army" as above...I'm ain't...that's all I have to say --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 20:01, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Drmies (talk) 23:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)


 * No worry. Thanks for doing so. CCL2023 (talk) 23:06, 12 December 2023 (UTC)