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 * Done! 2NumForIce  (speak  &#124; edits) 04:04, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Gina owllabs (15:44, 30 November 2023)
Hi, I am trying to edit the brand logo on the Owl Labs wiki page, as the current Wikipedia logo is outdated, but I need to perform 5 edits it seems to be eligible to make this change. The logo is available here - https://resources.owllabs.com/hubfs/logo.svg, would you be able to help me upload it? --Gina owllabs (talk) 15:44, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Gina owllabs! I took a look at the logo, and it seems to be in public domain as it only contains text, so there won't be any copyright problems.
 * Before you upload your file, if you have a conflict of interest (related to the subject), you should disclose that. See the info on WP:DISCLOSE for how to do that.
 * Next, upload your file (using this link, not UploadWizard) to Wikimedia Commons (a collection of free media files. Scroll down to the very bottom, select your file, and paste this in the summary (replacing the default text:


 * This will add file information to the description page. You might also want to add categories to the file.
 * Once you're done that, replace the "Logo_of_Owl_Labs.jpg" text on the Owl Labs article to your new file name, then let me know so I can mark the old file for deletion as it is copyrighted fair use and should be deleted.
 * If you want to make other changes, you should make a COI edit request, as editors with a COI should not edit directly.
 * Happy editing! 2NumForIce  (speak  &#124; edits) 19:14, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Logo update: Owl Labs Wiki
Hi and thank you for your help! I am excited to be part of the Wikipedia community. I've updated the Owl Labs logo with the current and accurate version and I've also added a COI to my user page. I wasn't aware of the terms but I'm studying now! I will definitely use COI Edits in the future and again, really appreciate your guidance. Gina owllabs (talk) 20:33, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * You're welcome!  2NumForIce  (speak  &#124; edits) 20:37, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from KonstantinPriahin (23:54, 1 December 2023)
Hi, How can I install my photo on the site? --KonstantinPriahin (talk) 23:54, 1 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @KonstantinPriahin! Could you please send me a link of the picture, as well as if the picture was previously published? (We need this for copyright information, as it's complicated.) Also, if you are connected to the subject, you should (or must if you are paid) by following steps at WP:DISCLOSE (or WP:COIPAYDISCLOSE if paid). 2NumForIce  (speak  &#124; edits) 02:16, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from NOVEM171 (22:06, 3 December 2023)
Hello!!! I just added my name on a the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_de_Land

I would like to add a "citation" with my name. The citation, reference is to a magazine Artforum: https://www.artforum.com/events/dennis-balk-3-205443/

How do I add that reference?

thanks! --NOVEM171 (talk) 22:06, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @NOVEM171,
 * First, you should disclose your conflict of interest (especially if you are being paid.) To do that, see WP:DISCLOSE (or WP:UPE if you are being paid). Next, you want to use reliable sources that are independent, so that information is verifiable. To add a citation:
 * Using the wikitext source editor (what you seem to be using)
 * In the toolbar, click Cite
 * Select a template that matches the source best
 * Fill out information
 * Using VisualEditor
 * Click VisualEditor citoid Cite button.png in the toolbar
 * Paste the URL or use citation template
 * 2NumForIce (speak  &#124; edits) 03:03, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Pepo255 (01:14, 5 December 2023)
how to edit a article --Pepo255 (talk) 01:14, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Pepo255, and welcome to Wikipedia!
 * Before you start editing, you should know Wikipedia's core content policies.
 * From Help:Editing:
 * "An encyclopedic style with a formal tone is important: straightforward, just-the-facts, instead of essay-like, argumentative, or opinionated. The goal of a Wikipedia article is to create a comprehensive and neutrally written summary of existing mainstream knowledge about a topic. Wikipedia does not publish original research. An encyclopedia is, by its nature, a tertiary source that provides a survey of information already published in the wider world. Ideally, all information should be cited and verifiable by reliable sources. Sourcing requirements are significantly stricter in articles on living persons."
 * If you have a conflict of interest (related to the subject, like being family members, friends, clients, employers of the subject, or the subject itself), you need to disclose that. See How to disclose a COI (scroll down if you are also being paid).
 * Wikipedia has two different editors: the wikitext source editor, and VisualEditor. The source editor is more versatile and allows directly editing wikitext, while VisualEditor is a WYSIWYG tool that functions like a word processor. To learn how to edit using wikitext or VisualEditor, see Help:Introduction.
 * If you want to find articles to edit, your Homepage can suggest articles to edit based on tags placed by others. You can go to the Homepage by clicking your username in the top right corner.
 * Happy editing! 2NumForIce  (speak  &#124; edits) 03:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Mimi0923 (11:11, 5 December 2023)
Hello! I am new to Wiki. I am a student and had a question about Wiki. Is the information written on a subject verified or is it or can it be a matter of ones opinion or interpretation? If I find information proven to be unfactual, can a page be edited or deleted? Also, when editing, can another person come right behind you and edit your text? --Mimi0923 (talk) 11:11, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Mimi0923! I'll split this into three parts:
 * Information on Wikipedia needs to be verifiable by citing reliable sources. You might want to check the talk page of the article, and the Reliable sources/Noticeboard for help.
 * If it's unfactual, be bold and fix it (with reliable sources and a neutral point of view). If you can't, you can place a cleanup tag (list) and discuss on the talk page, although it's better to help. If an entire article should be deleted, see speedy deletion, proposed deletion (PROD), and Articles for Deletion.
 * If you're talking about edit conflicts, the software will try to resolve them automatically. If it can't, you will need to manually fix it. If it's about other people editing your article, note that editors cannot "own" an article, as articles are collaborative projects and can be edited by others.
 * If you have any other questions, you can ask using your Special:Homepage (which also provides articles to fix, based on cleanup tags).
 * Happy editing! 2NumForIce  (speak  &#124; edits) 05:26, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Monurin (05:09, 6 December 2023)
Hello there, 2NumForIce! As a new user on Wikipedia, I wanted to ask you a question I've been wondering for a bit - what is considered as actual copyediting and what is not considered as actual copyediting? I just wanted to make sure all the edits I've done since my account was created are actually categorized correctly, thats all. Thanks! --Monurin (talk) 05:09, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Monurin,
 * "Copyediting" basically refers to improving readability of articles. You can check Basic copyediting for a how-to guide and information about copyediting an article. When copyediting, material should be consistent with the Manual of Style, although you don't have to memorize the entire MoS, as you can simply search through the MoS using the search box on the right of every MoS page (use MOS: as a shortcut). If you are planning to be an active copyeditor, consider joining WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors, a WikiProject for copyeditors. Happy editing! 2NumForIce  (speak  &#124; edits) 05:45, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your speedy reply, @2NumForIce! Another question I have is - what's considered as "promotional content" and "advertisement"? I ask this because a lot of the articles Wikipedia has suggested for me to edit has been tagged with such. Anyways sorry for bothering you with all these silly questions and thanks! (again) Monurin (talk) 06:43, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Monurin: I would consider "promotional content" to be content that is not in a neutral point of view and contains a lot of puffery (more biased words). A lot of promo articles cite no sources, or only cite non-reliable ones (mostly not independent), so I would consider that as well. See Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion for the Wikipedia policy about promotion. 2NumForIce  (speak  &#124; edits) 15:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * On Wikimedia Commons, there are some minor user-interface improvements for the "choosing own vs not own work" step in the UploadWizard. This is part of the Structured Content team's project of improving UploadWizard on Commons.

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 * Hello [2a04...27eb], per the Biographies of living persons policy, You will need to add some reliable sources to the content you're adding (see Help:Referencing for beginners). I see that you're using mobile, so it's easier to use the mobile VisualEditor (enable it using the pencil icon on the top-right), then select the quote icon in the top toolbar.  2NumForIce  (<sup style="color:#007eb3">speak  &#124; edits) 17:05, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Henry Petros (09:21, 9 January 2024)
Hello boss May I ask question? I'm still struggling with attaching photos in the article Would you guide me on photo attachment in the article --Henry Petros (talk) 09:21, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Removed duplicate "Question from Henry Petros (09:22, 9 January 2024)". 2NumForIce  (<sup style="color:#007eb3">speak  &#124; edits) 02:31, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi @Henry Petros,It seems you have a conflict of interest for this draft article. Directly editing Wikipedia on topics with a conflict of interest is strongly discouraged, and you will need to first disclose the COI. Articles need to be written from a neutral point of view (meaning that they don't take sides and instead state the major viewpoints), and the subject must also be notable enough.Because copyright is complicated, we need to verify that your image is licensed under a free license. As your image is on Facebook, you can simply edit that post stating that your image is licensed under either the:
 * Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0)
 * This allows anyone (not just Wikipedia) to use the image for any purpose (even commercially), as long as they credit you.
 * Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0)
 * This allows anyone (not just Wikipedia) to use the image for any purpose (even commercially), as long as they credit you and use the same license.
 * An example is: (linking to your chosen license)"This work is licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0"Next, you can upload your image to Wikimedia Commons. You can use the Upload Wizard to upload the file. Log in with your Wikipedia account, select your image, then on the "Release rights" screen, you will need to select "This is someone else's work" so you can enter the correct information:
 * Do you know what Creative Commons license this work was published under?
 * Yes, I have this information
 * select your license
 * Where did you find this work?
 * your Facebook post URL
 * Enter the name of the original author of these works.
 * Own work (This will mark it as "own work")
 * Then, fill out the rest of the file information, then upload the file. Finally, to add your image to the page, copy the code on the upload page to the article in the source editor (you can change the editor using the pencil icon).If you need more help, don't be afraid to ask on your Special:Homepage, or see Help:Introduction for a guide to editing Wikipedia. 2NumForIce  (<sup style="color:#007eb3">speak  &#124; edits) 03:19, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * thanks for letting me know this Henry Petros (talk) 05:26, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from Omar Iraq omar on Multiple choice (14:35, 10 January 2024)
كيف يمكنني السيطرن ع جميع المعادلات في الرياضيات السادس العلمي --Omar Iraq omar (talk) 14:35, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Omar Iraq omar Hello, and welcome to the English Wikipedia. This Wikipedia is written in English; you might want to contribute to the Arabic Wikipedia instead. Thank you! 2NumForIce  (<sup style="color:#007eb3">speak  &#124; edits) 20:34, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Gambo abiso junior (11:16, 17 January 2024)
Prophet Muhammad --Gambo abiso junior (talk) 11:16, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Merged "Question from Gambo abiso junior (11:16, 17 January 2024) (2)". Martin Luther king Jr --Gambo abiso junior (talk) 11:16, 17 January 2024 (UTC) 2NumForIce  (<sup style="color:#007eb3">speak  &#124; edits) 23:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello @Gambo abiso junior! Are you looking for help on editing or using Wikipedia? For reference information to help you add or change content, you can use Reference desk. Thanks! 2NumForIce  (<sup style="color:#007eb3">speak  &#124; edits) 23:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)