User talk:37.130.66.116

How could me asking for reliable sources on a topic get me blocked? I’ve read trough the guidelines and I haven’t seen that anywhere. I also am not block-evading, I merely wanted to stay anonymous while commenting on the topic. I’ve been blocked for a 24 hour period once before, and it had nothing to do with this. “Genocide whitewashing is unwelcome on Wikipedia”, and that justifies you blocking me for a period of one week? I could’ve just removed sections from the article without starting a discussion, I didn’t. I was civil, and you didn’t warn me either. Provide me with a link where it says “Asking for reliable sources on Genocide is an offense which could get a user blocked”. If you can’t this block is meaningless. 37.130.66.116 (talk) 19:41, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

''I’m pinging a few admins I met, quite a long time ago. Please help me out.'' 37.130.66.116 (talk) 20:02, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

I was blocked once before For a 24 hour period, and it was from another IP address. I addressed that above, you may have missed it. What I was asking for was “proof”, I never said I wanted to have the information removed from the article if users couldn’t provide me with any. I’ve been interested in this topic, so I did some research. I went to Turkey to check the Ottoman Archives, found nothing. I visited Germany to check the German archives and again, found nothing. I went as far as almost visiting Armenia, but I learnt that the archives weren’t public and seeing them was impossible. I checked the sources in the article and they all seemed to be based on the original (and first) record of the event. And from what I can tell, there are no historical records of it anywhere. The Article failed to acknowledge any of that, there was nothing on the alternative scenarios which could’ve happened. Everything was written as if it was a proven fact, so I assumed it was a proven fact and asked for a source which proved the event happened. And then I was blocked for disruptive editing, possible block evasion and you’re telling me that the one week block with no previous warnings or questions was justified. There’s a difference between me asking for proof that it happened and me saying it didn’t happen. Even if I was a Genocide denier, could you block me for a simple and civil question? Or is the so called freedom of speech limited to verbal communication? 37.130.66.116 (talk) 20:21, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * And also, they really need to change the title of that article. There is a huge difference between genocide deniers and Nazis, genocide denial isn’t restricted to the Holocaust. I believe in what can be proven, not saying I’m a genocide denier. If anyone can prove it, I’m completely fine with that. 37.130.66.116 (talk) 20:24, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I may be starting to bug you, sorry if I am. I don’t think that WP:NONAZIS applies to me because I wasn’t being racist, as I’ve stated before. I’m fine with it if there’s proof that it happened. The admin who blocked me directly assumed that I was racist from a single question and blocked me without looking into anything. 37.130.66.116 (talk) 20:52, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not claiming you are being racist (and not claiming you are a nazi). However, I am claiming there are plenty of reliable sources there, sources that meet WP:RS. There may or may not be sources that meet your specific criteria, but I'm afraid that's not relevant here. You are free to wish for specific types of sources, but Wikipedia isn't the place to argue that. If the sources there don't meet WP:RS, that would be relevant, but that wasn't the claim you were making. You are welcome to make a new unblock request, but I politely suggest you'll need to clearly demonstrate you understand and accept this. --Yamla (talk) 21:40, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * As I’ve stated before, I’m aware that there are (what you call) reliable sources. They just don’t meet my criteria, and they don’t have to either. I was never going to start an arguement and ask for the information to be removed, the reason I requested someone to provide me with reliable sources was for my own satisfaction. All I did was ask a simple question if the event could be proved with sources from the time, that led to me being blocked for “disruptive editing”. I really don’t think my question was disruptive, and I still think my unblock wasn’t justified. No warnings, no questions. Just a direct block. I really don’t feel like returning to a community in which I can’t state what I believe in, I won’t be bothering you and I’ll probably extend my Wikibreak until I feel like returning to my account. Until then, goodbye. 37.130.66.116 (talk) 22:33, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Responding as I was pinged. I'm afraid I have nothing to offer beyond what Yamla has stated. There are numerous reliable sources in that article. If you're really, truly curious, I would perhaps query the authors of the books published by university presses. I'm of no help on the topic, I'm really good at matrix numbers in phonograph records, and I can explain why there is no coverage regarding Time-Element losses under the Business Income endorsement of a Commercial Property insurance policy in the United States, but all I know about this particular atrocity is what I've read at Wikipedia, and a couple news/magazine articles I've read casually. Asking Wikipedia to "prove" what many, many reliable sources already discuss is disruptive, I'm afraid. RS is the only thing that keeps us balanced (and sane....)  78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 22:46, 30 June 2020 (UTC)