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Hi, I've noticed that you've just edited the Greyhaven article, which was previously about a progressive rock/metal band from Eugene in Oregon, who formed in 1996. They made one album, the self-titled Greyhaven, and then disbanded in 2000. It looks as if you have overwritten the existing article with totally new information. At first I was very confused because I have never seen that happen before, but then I deduced that there must be another band called Greyhaven, from Louisville in Kentucky, who formed in 2014, and they happen to have used the same name as the previous band. So if that's correct, it looks as if we maybe need two separate articles to be split off, so that both bands are covered. Even thought the first Greyhaven are no more, it would be wrong to pretend they never existed! I think we will have to use disambiguated names of some sort, but that might be tricky because they are both progressive rock bands so the title "Greyhaven (progressive rock band)" would apply to both of them too! I'm taking some advice from Wikipedia administrators at the moment who know a lot more about this sort of thing than I do, and hopefully I can get back to you with more info shortly. In the meantime, please feel free to contact me if you have anything to ask or add. Regards, Rodney Baggins (talk) 22:22, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * At this point, I have reverted your change to the article. You've shown no references, nor made any claim for notability for the band from Louisville.  If you wish to create an article for them (after reading WP:Your first article, WP:42, and WP:NMUSIC), please do so at Draft:Greyhaven.  I'm not a lawyer, but as the band who has an existing article here had a record deal at one time, the band from Louisville may be looking at a copyright infringement issue by even using that name.  They should probably consult an attorney. John from Idegon (talk) 22:33, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the email you sent me. It's probably easier if you communicate via this page as I'm more likely to notice it straight away. I'm pleased that you are working on a new draft article for the Louisville band Greyhaven and have restored the existing article for the Oregon band. You say there won't be any copyright issues over the band name. I hope you are right about that but that's an entirely different issue so I'll turn a blind eye as it's not really any of my business! Not sure about the titles of the respective articles. I'll find out if it's possible to change the name of the old band's article to "Greyhaven (1996–2000 band)" so you can have "Greyhaven", but we might have to leave it alone. Will get back to you. Thanks again. Rodney Baggins (talk) 08:35, 16 April 2018 (UTC)