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Filmography vs. videography
A lot of people were unclear on the difference between the two and I belived the difference was the music videos, I just need so clarity for the future as to the real difference. Thank youPeachywink (talk) 06:49, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't include music videos. Those would be better in a discography list.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 06:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually that's not where they go. I think they are normally placed in videographies because I looked at lady gaga's, katy perry's and a few other to get an idea for what was normal for music artist to have in filmographies and for all the filmographie links to a videography that includes the MV and the discographies do not have them. Also about the english...I'm actually american but I'm dyslexic with a reading/writing learning disability so you can change it however you feel is appropriatePeachywink (talk) 06:56, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, you are correct. You are following the Wikipedia consensus, though I personally, while I'm willing to accept this consensus, disagree with it slightly. No problem about the English - I myself, until about a year and a half ago, didn't know about the differences between British and American English when using collective nouns.

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 * Thank you! And thank you also to all of the other judges and participants.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 20:09, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

RedCloud
His music is covered by AllMusic, Cross Rhythms, Jesus Freak Hideout, The Phantom Tollbooth, and Rapzilla. His music has not fared commercially well, as evidenced by no Billboard chartings. I have to ask, do you think he is notable for inclusion?The Cross Bearer (talk) 03:00, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. This guy is solidly notable. Commercial success is not necessary for notability, it merely can indicate it. The coverage of the subject in multiple reliable, independent sources is the ultimate determiner of notability.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 05:16, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It is now at RedCloud (rapper).The Cross Bearer (talk) 07:52, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You can nominate it for DYK, if you feel like it meets the criteria.The Cross Bearer (talk) 08:34, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Richard III
Thank you very much for your help in getting Exhumation of Richard III of England to Featured Article status! I thought you might like to know that I have nominated it for Today's Featured Article for 26 March 2015. The request is at Today's featured article/requests/Exhumation of Richard III of England. Please feel free to comment if you have any views. Prioryman (talk) 09:20, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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What a shame
According to Sockpuppet investigations/Ancientsteppe/Archive, accounts including Toghuchar, Khorichar, Khiruge and Ceithe etc are all sock-puppets of Ancientsteppe. In fact, there are over 50 accounts that he had operated as listed in that page. What a shame. All these listed accounts have been blocked indefinitely. --Evecurid (talk) 03:44, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I discovered that myself earlier this evening. I suspected that something like that was going on, and, sadly, it turns out that I was right.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 04:42, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * You're welcome! It was a pleasure reviewing them. I think that this is really close to being a featured topic, if the main Boat Race article were improved to GA.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 22:00, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

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I think you posted your comment on the wrong talk page.The Cross Bearer (talk) 04:43, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * No, I was directly responding to TheLongTone's comments there. In doing so, though, I also referred to their objections that they voiced in an edit summary on How Can It Be.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 04:46, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I think that I irked him somewhat with Aunt Jemima on his user talk page.The Cross Bearer (talk) 04:47, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Was that comment meant to be sarcastic? If not, it certainly came across that way. If so, I personally think that was very abrasive, and I would apologize. I was thinking of some sarcastic comments (in reference to the "niche" argument) to make myself, but I felt that it wouldn't be very Christ-like to do that.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 04:52, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It was sarcasm, but Christians have to be cautious when utilizing that device, which I went to the users page to apologize for my error in judgment.The Cross Bearer (talk) 04:57, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * This is a lesson I've been learning, too. I have a sarcastic, sometimes caustic sense of humor, and I sometimes use it in a passive aggressive manner, which I should not do.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 05:25, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

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Satanic Warmaster
The lyrical themes section was poorly sourced. That is simply enough to remove the material in a BLP. Get more sources. Get the best sources you can find.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 03:42, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I think I'll just leave the article alone. I don't care enough about it to spend the energy. Hopefully someone with more interest will take up the task.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 05:30, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

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As I Lay Dying/American Tragedy
Just thought I'd let you know, User:Walter Görlitz left a message on my talk page explaining his reasoning behind the AILD revert. I thought his arguments made sense.-- MA SHAUN IX 16:21, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks . I also raised it at the template and so far only one editor commented there and agreed that a split wouldn't qualify as collaborating on an album. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:01, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * Hey, thanks. No hard feelings about the deletion discussion. I don't take it personally, and I hope you don't either.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 04:44, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No, I just want to become the best Wikipedia editor that I can become, and you helped me see the light, with regards to the article in question.The Cross Bearer (talk) 04:54, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
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Add to metalcore
Please, I want you to add these on that list, for me thank you.The Cross Bearer (talk) 03:02, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * Let's just wait till Synthwave.94 is done with the article, then you can go ahead and add them yourself. That's the only reason I reverted you, because the article is under construction.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 03:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


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A Hill to Die Upon
It has not been moved fully over to article mainspace, User:3family6/A Hill to Die Upon, where others can edit the article.The Cross Bearer (talk) 04:30, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Because I don't think it's ready for mainspace. I was planning to have it done at this point, but the Christian metal list fiasco has pushed that back. You can edit the article if you want, user space is not restricted to just the user.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 19:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Help with audio sample
Hey dude, can you upload Metallica - The Four Horsemen.ogg from the YouTube link (5:14—5:41). Thanks a bunch.--Retrohead (talk) 18:49, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * How is it being discussed in Kill 'Em All? I need some type of rationale for uploading it. I've got the converted MP3 and Audacity and everything, but right now I don't see how a clip from that particular section will be discussed in the article.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 03:24, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The explanation is in the hidden window at the article: The Four Horsemen" is based on a galloping tremolo picked riff and double bass drum triplets. Its multipart concept preceded the more complex song structures Metallica applied on subsequent albums.--Retrohead (talk) 08:06, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 19:39, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Done.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 20:06, 15 June 2015 (UTC)