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Metal/grunge
Hey, I started a discussion at Talk:Heavy_metal_music, reacting to your reversal of my edit and the reason you gave. Feel free to remove this message.-- MA SHAUN IX 20:07, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #5—2015
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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs, added new features, and made some small design changes. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages like Japanese and Arabic, making it easier to edit on mobile devices, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.

Recent improvements
Educational features: The first time you use the visual editor, it now draws your attention to the and  tools. When you click on the tools, it explains why you should use them. (T108620) Alongside this, the welcome message for new users has been simplified to make editing more welcoming. (T112354) More in-software educational features are planned.

Links: It is now easier to understand when you are adding text to a link and when you are typing plain text next to it. (T74108, T91285) The editor now fully supports ISBN, PMID or RFC numbers. (T109498, T110347, T63558) These  "magic links" use a custom link editing tool.

Uploads: Registered editors can now upload images and other media to Commons while editing. Click the new tab in the " " tool. You will be guided through the process without having to leave your edit. At the end, the image will be inserted. This tool is limited to one file at a time, owned by the user, and licensed under Commons's standard license. For more complex situations, the tool links to more advanced upload tools. You can also drag the image into the editor. This will be available in the wikitext editor later.

Mobile: Previously, the visual editor was available on the mobile Wikipedia site only on tablets. Now, editors can use the visual editor on any size of device. (T85630) Edit conflicts were previously broken on the mobile website. Edit conflicts can now be resolved in both wikitext and visual editors. (T111894) Sometimes templates and similar items could not be deleted on the mobile website. Selecting them caused the on-screen keyboard to hide with some browsers. Now there is a new "" button, so that these things can be removed if the keyboard hides. (T62110) You can also edit table cells in mobile now.

Rich editing tools: You can now add and edit sheet music in the visual editor. (T112925) There are separate tabs for advanced options, such as MIDI and Ogg audio files. (T114227 and T113354) When editing formulæ and other blocks, errors are shown as you edit. It is also possible to edit some types of graphs; adding new ones, and support for new types, will be coming.

On the English Wikipedia, the visual editor is now automatically available to anyone who creates an account. The preference switch was moved to the normal location, under Special:Preferences.

Future changes
You will soon be able to switch from the wikitext to the visual editor after you start editing. (T49779) Previously, you could only switch from the visual editor to the wikitext editor. Bi-directional switching will make possible a single edit tab. (T102398) This project will combine the "" and "" tabs into a single "" tab, similar to the system already used on the mobile website. The "" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time.

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The Signpost: 28 October 2015

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life span
Do you have any specific reasons to describe the life span of the Byzantine Empire as "c. 330 –1204" and "1261 –1453"? I don't think the Byzantine Empire as a state discontinued to exist during the period of 1204 and 1261. It simply lost the capital Constantinople and existed as a rump state based in Nicaea during this period. This is similar to the situation of the Republic of China after 1949, and we can't say ROC no longer exists after 1949 in Wikipedia. Most sources such as this, this and this also consider the Byzantine Empire to last from 330 to 1453. --Cartakes (talk) 21:58, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Because the Empire of Trebizond and Despotate of Epirus were also contenders for rule of the Empire. The only reason that Nicea is considered the legitimate continuation of the Empire is because they managed to re-take Constantinople. Up until that point, there was no one "Byzantine Empire," just three rival states each attempting to restore the Empire. The Byzantium article itself, in the lead, stresses how the 1204 conquest effectively shattered the power of the Byzantine Empire, and I would say that it is presumptuous to say that Nicea somehow was a continuation of the Empire through the next 60-so years of turmoil when the other two rump states weren't. The difference this and the situation with the ROC is that the ROC still exists, it just doesn't hold the territory it used to. Yes, Trebizond continued until even after the fall of Constantinople, but because Nicea re-captured the former capital, it was recognized as the legitimate successor. To use your ROC analogy, currently the article on "China" directs to the PROC. If, somehow, the ROC managed to recapture all or most of mainland, historical China, I am pretty sure that it would become the focus of our main article. This isn't saying that ROC doesn't exist, but that it isn't, right now, considered the legitimate "China." Nicea wasn't the "legitimate" Byzantium until they managed to retake Constantinople.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 22:13, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, there are some differences between the Byzantine Empire and the ROC as you pointed out. However, we can simply consider that the Byzantine Empire was divided into the states based in Nicaea, Trebizond, and Epirius during this period. The Mongol Empire was also divided since 1260, but in historiography we don't say the Mongol Empire ceased to exist after 1260. I think we'd better try to base on how sources would say instead, and the sources I mentioned above all consider the Byzantine Empire to last from 330 to 1453. --Cartakes (talk) 22:23, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't have firm stake in this, so I'm open to keeping the article as it was. What sparked this was that I noticed that the article for the Turkic Khaganate had listed the Khaganate as existing from 552-744, when in actuality it completely split apart, the rival factions subjugated by the Tang dynasty, and then later was reformed. This isn't similar to the Byzantine Empire, but it was the change that I implemented there that caused me to consider the Byzantine Empire article. I did look through the article first, and it does seem as though the Empire effectively ceased to exist as a unified entity until the re-capture of Constantinople. You could argue that in the long-term, it was a short interregnum, and that for a timeline you can pass over it, but I felt that the change I implemented is within the scope of both historical consensus and the guidelines for the "life span" parameter. You make a good point about the Mongol Empire - I've thought about initiating a discussion as to whether the time line should stop at 1260 or 1264, but you can make the argument that, though there were rival states, the Yuan dynasty managed to successfully retain the title as a continuation of the Great Mongol Empire. From what I understand, only the Chagatai Khanate ever seriously challenged the Yuan as the "Mongol Empire - the Ilkhanate generally supported the Yuan, and thus did not contest this supremacy, while the Golden Horde didn't make a claim to be the "Great Mongol Empire." And all three, for a few decades, at point accepted the Yuan as supreme. But I wouldn't be opposed to ending the timeline at c. 1260 instead of 1368, and I have commented that the image associated with the Empire, depicting it's expansion, is inaccurate in that it suggests that the fragmentation was later then it actually was. Going back to the Byzantine Empire, again, I'm not trying to make this a hill to die on or anything, I just thought that it was something that was within the scope of the infobox documentation and the historical narrative.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 01:13, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree that for the Mughal Empire at least, there was an uncontroversial break between 1540 and 1555 when the empire simply ceased to exist. But for the Byzantine Empire, I think it is at least controversial to say so for the period mentioned. How about keeping it the way it was, but with a note that the empire is sometimes considered to be non-existent between 1204 and 1261? Thanks. --Cartakes (talk) 01:36, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not opposed to that.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 01:38, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

The Metal project welcomes 3family6!
The Metal project welcomes a new member 3family6 to the team! Thank you for your enlistment and with that we shall get this project revived! --Xavier (talk) 15:44, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and you're welcome!-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 15:46, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikiprojects
Thanks for asking me about the Christain metal wikiprojects! Yes I have just recently (like five seconds ago) joined! --Metalworker14 (Yo) 16:36, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Page errors
Your page has some scripting errors. Certain elements are not displaying properly. I use the latest version of Chrome on a PC computer. --Xavier (talk) 15:42, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * What kind of errors? Thanks for notifying me.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 16:27, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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And now for something
...completely different! ;) Hey Fam, I suspect this is a little outside of your wheelhouse, but would you mind taking a look at my latest FAC?  It failed last time, only because no one reviewed it.  I'd really like for it to fail again for the same reason, so I'm canvassing (not really) my buddies here to help out.  I'd appreciate it.  Don't know if you celebrate Thanksgiving, but if so, I hope yours was as nice as mine.  If not, best to you anyway. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:58, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I do celebrate Thanksgiving, and it was great, thank you! Sure, I'll check out your FAC.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 17:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh good! Thanks so much. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 19:52, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Helvete (journal)


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Signpost
Hi Kenneth. I'm the Signpost recruiter and I am happy to meet you! I understand you might be interested in joining the Signpost team. I wonder if you have any questions about the Publication area of the paper (the section you mentioned on page), or anything else Signpost related? I have your talkpage watchlisted, and I hope to hear from you, but if you're busy with other things, no worries. P.S., I brought some coffee and cookies along; hope you like them. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:06, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm definitely interested in helping out a the Signpost. I think I understand the basics of Publication: Put together the front page, check for errors, and then a bot will mass-send the Signpost. Is there anything else that I should now? Thanks for contacting me!-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 15:41, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Believe (Cher song) - Cher as songwriter?
Cher is having interview through live chat in December 2000. She said that she wrote the second verse of the song. However cherworld.com is probably an unofficial online, unless any reliable sources could find per same interview text. You can use ASCAP credits for the song. 123.136.111.63 (talk) 16:17, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I found another two cites rather than interview transcript that I posted on talk page of the article. (Although I'm the same person with different IP)123.136.111.49 (talk) 03:03, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

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Season's Greetings!
Happy Holidays text.png Hello 3family6: Enjoy the holiday season and upcoming winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 20:43, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


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VisualEditor News #6—2015
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A new, simpler system for editing will offer a single Edit button. Once the page has opened, you can switch back and forth between visual and wikitext editing.

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Continuous of Believe (Cher song) request
I found another two sources to posted on the article's talk page (Cher has writing input to the song). 123.136.112.59 (talk) 06:36, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks!
Didn't get a chance to thank you on the DYK nomination page for Corruption in Uzbekistan. Thanks for your aid and guidance. Let me know if there's ever anything you need that I can help with. Best. DaltonCastle (talk) 18:33, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You're welcome!-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 18:35, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

GA Cup
Hey! I noticed that during last year's GA Cup, the points allocation often took some time. Since I am busy competing in the WikiCup, I will not return to the GA Cup this year as a participant, but if you guys need a hand in the judging procedures, I'd be happy to help. Cheers, Zwerg Nase (talk) 10:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Talk to . We'd love to have you as a judge!-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 15:38, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * the more the merrier! Thanks, and welcome to the team. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:46, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Wonderful, thank you :) Zwerg Nase (talk) 20:30, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for Church Clothes 3
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DYK for Sometime
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Antestor
You may not have used this review from Cornerstone Magazine.The Cross Bearer (talk) 12:01, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think it is used. Thanks!-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 04:27, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

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Ratt song and album pages
Would you check any unreliable sources? 123.136.111.174 (talk) 11:01, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll compile a list of what I find tonight when I get off my shift at work.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 15:10, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sintax the Terrific
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DYK for Sivion
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FA review
Hey Mick, can you review Ride the Lightning for an FA on its nomination page? The image and source reviews are done so far, but I haven't received a prose review yet. Thanks in advance.--Retrohead (talk) 13:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'll take a look!-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 14:43, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #1—2016
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Recent changes
You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. This function is available to nearly all editors at most wikis except the Wiktionaries and Wikisources.

Many local feedback pages for the visual editor have been redirected to mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.

You can now re-arrange columns and rows in tables, as well as copying a row, column or any other selection of cells and pasting it in a new location.

The formula editor has two options: you can choose "Quick edit" to see and change only the LaTeX code, or "Edit" to use the full tool. The full tool offers immediate preview and an extensive list of symbols.

Future changes
The single edit tab project will combine the "" and "" tabs into a single "" tab. This is similar to the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as an account preference for logged-in editors, and as a cookie for logged-out users. Logged-in editors will have these options in the tab of Special:Preferences: The visual editor uses the same search engine as Special:Search to find links and files. This search will get better at detecting typos and spelling mistakes soon. These improvements to search will appear in the visual editor as well.
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The visual editor will be offered to all editors at most "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers would like to know how well the visual editor works in your language. They particularly want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect the following languages: Japanese, Korean, Urdu, Persian, Arabic, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Assamese, Thai, Aramaic and others.

Let's work together
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thanks!
 * Please try out the newest version of the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You may need to restore the default preferences (at the bottom of test2wiki:Special:Preferences) to see the initial prompt for options. Were you able to find a preference setting that will work for your own editing? Did you see the large preferences dialog box when you started editing an article there?
 * Can you read and type in Korean, Arabic, Japanese, Indic, or Han scripts? Language engineer David Chan needs help from people who often type in these languages. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing if you can help. Report your results on wiki (Korean – Japanese – all languages).
 * Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Join the Tech Talk about "Automated citations in Wikipedia: Citoid and the technology behind it" with Sebastian Karcher on 29 February 2016.

– Whatamidoing (WMF) 17:46, 25 February 2016 (UTC)