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Christian Music Zine and other sites
If you want to use Christian Music Zine, New Release Tuesday or Indie Vision Music, heck even Jesus Freak Hideout you need to go to here and discuss the matter with this editor, who seems to know nothing about the Christian Music genre.HotHat (talk) 02:37, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Websites
I have started the discussion, so lets talk if you want.HotHat (talk) 07:53, 6 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Got the websites linked to the editorial team, and gave a brief synopsis on the rating methodologies used by each website.HotHat (talk) 05:04, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thanks. Usually I just use the edit source option. That edit summary was done last night when I was quite tired, so it's a bit exaggerated. I've been trying to use the editor to identify problems, as the editor does look promising.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 20:30, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Extol (album)
I'm just notifying you that your DYK nomination has an issue. 12:10, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Done
I went ahead and got it done with Music review sources, if you would like to edit go ahead and be my guest.HotHat (talk) 07:43, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Nice! If you don't mind, I'll move the self-published sources to their own source, plus merge in some book sources. I'm at work today, so I'm not sure how long some of this will take.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 12:22, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Great job, I put in the ratings systems.HotHat (talk) 03:13, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * By the way, if you want some more Extol reviews go to Cornerstone link that is part of the new resource.HotHat (talk) 04:35, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks!-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 12:01, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Got it fixed.HotHat (talk) 01:00, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Extol (album)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:07, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Hinduism in Karnataka
3family6, could you please stop by and clarify which of the hooks you approved, or if it was both, then clarify that, and then restate your approval tick? I just looked at it for possible promotion to a prep area, but couldn't tell which one "the hook" was that you were approving. Many thanks, and sorry to bother you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:38, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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 * Resizing thumbnails that have a default size set now works (50645)
 * References made by tag:ref now display properly (50978)
 * The VE is integrated with the spam blacklist (50826)
 * Feedbacl link goes to the right language (47730)

There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 07:12, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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Suggestions
I have got another started New Publications.HotHat (talk) 03:58, 19 July 2013 (UTC)


 * By the way, we need to add RELEVANT to the Christian Sources page.HotHat (talk) 06:26, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Very, very nice! Excellent work!-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 12:50, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * So, who wants to add them to the list? I went and looked thru Metacritic sources and found a treasure trove again.HotHat (talk) 16:14, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Let's wait for a different editor to take a look. The two of us have worked pretty close together on finding sources, I don't want issues with collusion.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 22:37, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I am done adding publications for now.HotHat (talk) 22:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I will only wait utill Tuesday at the latest, utill I start updating the article.HotHat (talk) 22:59, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I went thru the list and put the Editorial Team link next to those some editors may look as being suspect. I think we are fine to progress with most of them, but if you want to wait, we can because "discreation is the best part of valor".HotHat (talk) 00:41, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I would suggest waiting, though the papers can probably go through, as they are all highly reputable.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 00:42, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Artwork for Albums Required
Please consider uploading the album artwork for [The Good Fight (Bizzle Album)|The Good Fight] &  Tough, Love & Parables (the page title is incorrect). Other than this consider working on articles for HOG MOB artist Sevin if possible as well as rappers Suzy Rock, Thi'sl & Swoope. They should all be well known figures in Christian Hip Hop worldwide.

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Policy development
You are more than welcome to comment on Ground rules.HotHat (talk) 07:23, 21 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Just tell me, when you want to move forward with updating the article.HotHat (talk) 07:03, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Is this in regard to the proposed source list additions, or the policy update? No one has challenged the sources, so I would go ahead and add them. With the policy proposal, I don't think anything really needs to be done, as the proposal simply provides specific examples under the basic guidelines.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 20:34, 24 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, this is exactly what I am talking about is adding them to this list, but if you want me to do it just ask.HotHat (talk) 03:27, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter
Hey 3family6. The newest updates: Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:45, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Links now don't extend over space/punctuation/workbreaks when you type (51463)
 * Users with the "minoredit" preference set get working functionality (51515)
 * You can tab to buttons in dialogs, including the save dialog (50047)
 * We now show the (or ) message as an edit notice (51459)
 * You can scroll dialog panels like in transclusions' templates' parameter listings (51739)
 * Templates that only create meta-data and no display content at all (like Template:Use dmy dates) now can't be deleted accidentally or deliberately, but still don't show up (51322)
 * FlaggedRevisions integration (49699)
 * Edit summary will get the section title pre-added if you launched from a section edit link (50872)

DYK for Reach Records
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:04, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

New article
I think you might be interest in The Same Love.HotHat (talk) 05:43, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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VE edit conflicts
Hi, in regards to the bug you raised at VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive_2013_07, I have developed at temporary solution. See User:John Vandenberg/switch editor. I would appreciate any feedback on how it can be improved. John Vandenberg (chat) 22:27, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Extol
Their new album was reviewed in Metal Hammer August edition on the newsstands, if you want to go and get the review out of the magazine. I have to warn you that they gave it a 6 out of ten.HotHat (talk) 05:26, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll see if I can get it somehow. I don't care what review they gave it, that's their business.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 13:35, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * If you can't get it let me know then I will have to drive a ways to read the review again, plus if I am not mistaken they reviewed the new August Burns Red album and rated it an 8 in the same issue.HotHat (talk) 21:46, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * By the way, Outburn magazine will be having reviews of Extol and Rescue & Restore in their new August/September issue No. 70, which should be on the newsstands in a week or two. Oh, I was the one that created their magazine article on Wikipedia, which I am utterly amazed how a magazine with noted writers did not have an article on here 14 years after their founding, but I fixed that for good. You have a great day.HotHat (talk) 21:57, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think I'm going to sink the money into getting just one edition for the Extol review. I'm not that devoted to Wikipedia I'm afraid. Don't feel like you need to go through all that just for me, but if you really want to get that review into the Extol article, go ahead. By the way, you are amazing at getting source material. How do you do it?-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 23:48, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I have subscriptions to Alternative Press really cheap, Q and Mojo somewhat affordable/expensive. I go to a local bookstore, where they carry all the other music magazines. I take my computer to the store and edit away. I just did not have it when I went recently. But, I will be going back in a couple days, so I will get that review on here at that time. See, FYE carries some, Barnes & Noble carries even more, and greater than those is Books-a-Million. I will be getting in the not to distant future subscriptions to Outburn, Revolver, and Decibel, but don't hold me to it right now, which I know you won't. When I can afford it I will get Metal Hammer (9/10), Classic Rock (9/10 red cubes) like Cross Rhythms, Classic Pop (five spins/cd's) like Fact and CBN, Uncut (9/10), Kerrang! (five stars) really expensive, Rock Sound, and maybe NME really expensive, but not in any particular order. I also get Magnet now. Substream does not give ratings nor does Relix they only give a review like the The New York Times. I now know more about music publications than probably 90 percent of editors that deal with music articles on Wikipedia.HotHat (talk) 03:23, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * See if you go to Magazine Price Search you can see what I PAID for my four year subscription to AltPress, just mere change.HotHat (talk) 03:41, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If you need any reviews just ask, and I will tell you if I can get them. I don't pay newsstand prices at all! My standard is if I get two or three at the newsstand the next must be via subscription, or else I will not get anymore.HotHat (talk) 04:06, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I actually have that issue if you want me to scan in the pages for both reviews and putting them somewhere like flikr? It's no issue. Jonjonjohny (talk) 08:51, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * That would be nice, but see how 3family6 wants you to do it for him/her.HotHat (talk) 15:37, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

That's a great idea! For the record, I'm a guy :)-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 16:52, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Rescue and Restore and it's citation, and Extol and it's citation. Jonjonjohny (talk) 09:49, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to say excellent job, and thank you for the contributions.HotHat (talk) 01:40, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I put your link in the url in the citation, so that people can verify the information with respect to Rescue & Restore.HotHat (talk) 03:01, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

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