User talk:3meandE

Welcome & TRNC
Hello and welcome to the Wikipedia;

I see that we have some common interests and hopefully in futere we'll be cooperating ;)

About the discussion in the TRNC page. As you can see we had a long long discussion there about this subject. "de facto independent" is a term used for such countries (Abkhazia, Transnistria, NKR etc...) It is not a Turkish POV term, actually the other way around, saying that TRNC is "de jure" (by the means of law) illegal.

"de facto" says to the reader that it's "in fact" there, but lawfully doesn't exist.

The sources about this are totally independent and NPOV (Such as the Guardian newspaper, a book by an American middle east expert etc.)

So Turkey recognizes TRNC as a "de jure" independent republic, while it's a "de facto" independent republic for the rest of the world.

I know it's confusing, but no one yet could come up with a better, NPOV explanation for this, and this seems to partly satisfy everybody. Plus I wish the situation in Cyprus was not like that, but unfortunately it is;

I guess that was a bit tense of a subject to step in wikipedia;

Welcome again;

Regards, Kerem Özcan 07:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)