User talk:45Factoid44/Archives/UTC2008-11-23T20:17:26+00:00082008 23pm30UTC('Sunday 23rd of November 2008 08:17:26 PM');

Barnstar
I am saying this in the words of another wikipedian who saved me from being retired:

"I'll be damned if I see another Wikipedian leave"

Sorry to get corny, but Wikipedia cannot continue to lose editors. You contributions are appreciated, and I can speak for the whole community when I say you shouldn't retire.-- LAA Fan sign review 16:10, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * If you could offer any advice on patrolling with Twinkle or suggest any other more productive ways that I might contribute going forward I would really appreciate it.VandalismWatcher3533 (talk) 08:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * See response below. Euryalus (talk) 08:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

vandalism?
You reverted my edits to the 1968 Democratic National Convention article as “vandalism”; please explain. —140.247.23.190 (talk) 01:14, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * My apologies. That was my first day editing so I will make a sincere effort to improve my skills in discerning what is and isn't really vandalism. I appreciate you brining this to my attention. VandalismWatcher3533 (talk) 07:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * See response below. Euryalus (talk) 08:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hostname
Forgiving the templating, you believe that this removal is vandalism? That whole section is a joke! "Mythological references, cartoon characters, animal names, and allusions to sci-fi or fantasy literature are probably the most popular sources for sitenames (in roughly descending order)." - You believe this to be a serious sentence in this article? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't read what I removed because I have a hard time believing that you think this is serious. Oren0 (talk) 04:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * My apologies. This occurred on my first day of using Twinkle and I am currently seeking advice from Administrators on how to more effectively use the tool and discern what is and is not really vandalism. I really do appreciate you bringing this to my attention and if you see any more errors or have any advice that might help me in the future please don't hesitate to contact me. VandalismWatcher3533 (talk) 07:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * See response below. Euryalus (talk) 08:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits
You appear to have decided to return to Wikipedia, and to take up Recent Changes Patrolling, using TW.

So far, so good!

However, I note that in the first day of doing this, you have received a number of complaints from other editors who feel (rightly IMHO) that you are assuming bad faith and calling legitimate edits vandalism.

To compound the issue, your reaction to receiving these complaints has simply been to delete them, rather than addressing the problem.

I note that you have now put yourself on a Wikibreak enforcer.

When you return from your Wikibreak, if you intend to continue using Twinkle, I would ask that you note the following;
 * 1) When using automated tools like Twinkle, you remain responsible for your edits, and you should never be tempted to use the rollback feature before having fully assessed the article changes.
 * 2) You should never rollback as vandalism unless you are certain that the editor set out to damage the article. The fact that a chunk of text has been removed doesn't make it vandalism.
 * 3) Neither does a failure to use an edit summary that explains properly make a change revertable on sight.

In summary, it appears that on your first day of using Twinkle, you have been rather trigger-happy, and if you wish to continue using it, you will need to be much more careful. Mayalld (talk) 07:19, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Indeed, I think Twinkle instead of the kind of editing that I had previously partaken in might be less controversial, allow me to get involved in more projects, and rebuild my reputation on Wikipedia(my new signature is part of this effort on reputation front). In many instances I was successful I think on my first day. However, I do admit I got a little trigger happy there for a little while when I finally got the hang of it and started to enjoy it which led to some mistakes. In several instances I responded to these mistakes by either undoing them, apologizing, or removing the warning. However, 2 more came in after I set my schoolwork induced enforced wikibreak and I indeed did not respond to those until today. I hope that you and the rest of Wikipedia will be open to giving me another chance and I look forward to the opportunity also to possibly talk with you about any tips or tricks that you might have to help be more successful in my endeavor. Thanks very much for your message and I hope to hear back from you when you have an opportunity. VandalismWatcher3533 (talk) 07:49, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. With respect, the above message doesn't seem so urgent it can't wait until Friday, when you can bring it to User:Mayalld's attention directly. It's good you've acknowledged the point s/he makes, and there's no reason you cannot return to productive editing when the block expires, provided you heed the issues raised on this page and at Suspected sock puppets/45Factoid44. This applies equally to the message to User:IllaZilla, so I've removed the template there also. Euryalus (talk) 08:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Blocked
Per Suspected sock puppets/45Factoid44, you have been blocked for a week. Disruptive editing from this account and the two IPs have continued to this week and you have clearly been deceptive about the use of the identities, such as accidentally claiming not to be a registered user, even while logged in! If you can give some assurance that you will stop logging in and out and then pretending that you're not logging in and out, I will reconsider. —Wknight94 (talk) 16:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note that I am back on my username and sticking with the aforementioned course of action that I told you about before. VandalismWatcher3533 (talk) 07:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

To IllaZilla
I made the edits you referred to in your alteration of my user page during the day and began the wikibreak in the evening which was enforced and which I stuck to. My new signature is my effort create a new reputation for myself upon my return(today) unless the two administrators I am working with advise me against it. I'd appreciate it if you'd do your homework in the future when responding to issues such as this and if you would refrain from editing mine and others user pages without their express permission unless they have been vandalized. I apologize for the misunderstanding. VandalismWatcher3533 (talk) 08:01, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * See response above. Euryalus (talk) 08:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * So noted (seems your talk page was still on my watchlist). Apologies for the edit to your userpage, but I did not notice the timestamps on the 100+ edits you made in the AM of November 12 using TW. That plus the redlink to the VandalismWatcher3533 account in the wikibreak banner led me to assume that either A) you were an inexperienced user who did not fully understand the wikibreak template (a logical assumption given that the username in the template was a redlink and did not match your username); or B) you were misusing the template in order to give the impression that you were taking a break, as a means of hiding from the sockpuppetry accusation (a logical yet, it seems, incorrect assumption). I apologize for the misunderstanding and I am glad that you are endeavoring to forge a better reputation for yourself on Wikipedia. If you wish to change your username entirely rather than just your signature, you can request this at WP:RENAME. If not, that is still OK and you can operate under your current name using your new signature. However, please remember that when you put your username in templates, etc. that link to your userpage, you need to use your actual username (45Factoid44) and not merely your signature name (VandalismWatcher3533), as failing to do so will result in a redlink like the one that appeared in your wikibreak template. If you need any other tips or have any other concerns, please don't hesitate to ask on my talk page and I will do what I can to help. Happy editing! --IllaZilla (talk) 08:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

To Euryalus
Alright. I was just trying to get a head start on things but I'll wait. Wasn't trying to inconvenience anyone. Thank you. VandalismWatcher3533 (talk) 08:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * You haven't inconvenienced anyone. I notice IllaZilla stopepd by and read the message already, so that's one at least. And Friday is nearly here, at least in this part of the world. Euryalus (talk) 11:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)