User talk:46.97.176.160

Disruptive editing on New wave of British heavy metal
I see that you have taken at heart the NWOBHM article and in particular its intro. The article was discussed for months before being approved and a few things, based on references and facts, were decided:
 * The NWOBHM is not a music genre, but a musical movement, which lasted for less than 10 years;
 * The movement started together with punk as an underground phenomenon and later went mainstream;
 * The bands of the NWOBHM played heavy metal, with different influences and styles more or less recognizable;
 * Many of those styles were very mainstream;

You write that the music of the NWOBHM is more underground than mainstream. What doees it mean that a music style is more underground? Was it not played on radio (but it was)? Did it not have much success (but it had success)? Another music style should be cited, or your sentence doesn't make sense. The sentence is referring to the styles mixed together in the metal music played in that period by young bands in the UK. I guess that you confuse the youthful musical movement with the music played. Lewismaster (talk) 16:11, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Indeed, NWOBHM is not a musical genre and a movement, and for that I apologize for my mistake, related to the question that brought us here and your questions: It's a little hard to define what the underground was like in the 70's and 80's respectively, because I didn't live in those events at that time. Regarding the radio broadcasting phase, then the radios are not as you perceive them. Not everyone has / owns a mainstream automatic radio, the radio was a key source for other subcultures (ex punk), at that time there were radios that promoted underground music (It's like saying you're not underground if you listen to music from internet apps). Doesn't my sentence make sense? You can define what it doesn't make sense to say specifically about DIY and independent record label, and again I specified that the sources in the article indicate this. And the final note, of course, I do not intend to throw in the trash that worked some people before me, to make a rather minor accuracy once the journalist Geoff Barton himself who called the movement says that once some troops have entered the mainstream the movement ended. 46.97.176.160 (talk) 23:40, 4 May 2022 (UTC)