User talk:4Xanadu

Please stop. If you continue to add promotional material to Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. OhNo itsJamie Talk 03:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Newcomer requesting help
Hi Jamie -

I am a newcomer and am feeling a little bit "bitten." I am not trying to post promotional material, but am trying to add to the informational content of Wikipedia. Please advise how I can do this without having it be considered promotional. The material I have referenced in my article is not my material, but is, in my opinion, important information on the psychology of love, perhaps the most important (the reason I contributed it). The current (old) information is very limited, and to some degree inaccurate...

Please help me know how to best contribute to Wikipedia. I would be happy to continue discussions on this with you or other contributors.

Thanks!

4Xanadu (talk) 04:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

How to proceed next?
Hi Jamie -

I have read the articles you mantioned on advertising and conflict of interest. I believe the article I contributed meets these guidelines with the possible exception that I cited my own website in the "references" as a source to acquire Dr. Bessell's book (it happens to be the most convenient source for that book, since it is out of print and Dr. Bessell is dead). I would be happy to remove that citation.

I support the concept of "neutral point of view," and thought I was writing in a neutral way (still think so). If I was not successful in this, please indicate where I can improve.

It also occurs to me that perhaps you would prefer that I cite other sources, in addition to Dr. Bessell. I would be happy to expand the article in order to do this if it would help.

My purpose is to provide good information. I believe I have good information to share, information that is important to this subject. I will be happy to continue editing my material in order to satisfy your guidelines. Please give me a little more direction so I know how best to proceed.

Thanks!

4Xanadu (talk) 18:07, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The section you were adding, aside from seeming promotional, we a bit too long; see WP:UNDUE for an explanation of our policy on "undue weight." In other words, a few quotes or ideas from the other may be appropriate to mention. When adding large sections or making major changes to relatively stable articles, it's often a good idea to propose your edits to the article's talk page first to seek some input from other editors. As far as linking to your own website, that would be a violation of conflict of interest and possibly WP:Reliable sources.  Thanks, OhNo itsJamie  Talk 19:29, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, I will take another approach to this per your suggestions. My plan now is to give brief (one paragraph) summaries of five or six respected sources in order to provide a balanced view. Then I will propose this to the article's talk page (good idea, thanks). Is there somewhere I can post a draft of the article when I mention in on the talk page so I don't have to place the entire article on the talk page? I appreciate your help! 4Xanadu (talk) 17:17, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You can post it in your userspace. To do that, you just create a new space as a "subdirectory" of your userpage.  I've created on for you here. Cheers, OhNo itsJamie  Talk 18:33, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

My Draft
Hi Jamie - I have just created a draft in my workspace (the one you set up for me) per your guidance. Please review and let me know if I am on the right track.

I have two questions:

1. I have been unable to insert the reference indicator in each paragraph using the format prescribed (with brackets like this <> etc.) When I do this, it causes me to lose all the material after that. Any suggestions here?

2. If you are satisfied with the content of this material, at least for starters, how do I initiate a peer review?

Thanks!!

4Xanadu (talk) 19:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I've made some suggestions on your draft. Cheers, OhNo itsJamie  Talk 18:16, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Jamie. I'll digest your suggestions and then ask again how to proceed. 4Xanadu (talk) 10:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Revised Draft
Hi Jamie -

I have revised my draft and incorporated 99% of your suggestions (I lost the cross-reference to the word "genetic" and don't know how to recreate it).

It's clear that you put a lot of thought into your edits, and I really appreciate that!

So now what do I do to initiate a peer review?

Thanks,

4Xanadu (talk) 08:37, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Please Leave Comments Here
This proposed section has been modified in acordance with the suggestions from Jamie, and is now ready for peer review.

If you have comments, please leave them here.

Thanks!!

4Xanadu (talk) 10:01, 12 July 2009 (UTC)