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Speedy deletion nomination of Celtic World Orchestra


A tag has been placed on Celtic World Orchestra, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the.  Puzzledvegetable Is it teatime already?  18:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

August 2019
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Celtic World Orchestra, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you.  Puzzledvegetable Is it teatime already?  18:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

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Please use the edit summary to explain your reasoning for the edit, or a summary of what the edit changes. You can give yourself a reminder to add an edit summary by setting. Thanks!  Puzzledvegetable Is it teatime already?  18:30, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Celtic World Orchestra moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Celtic World Orchestra, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. kingboyk (talk) 18:35, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

August 2019
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COI
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Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above Jimfbleak - talk to me?  06:26, 18 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I saw your test at the draft page. Before you make any substantive edits, I suggest you read very carefully what I've said above about clarifying whether you have a conflict of interest. If you edit without responding to that query, I will block you Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)


 * If you are not paid, you should still indicate your affiliation on the draft's talk page, so all is transparent. I suspected that you were not a paid editor which is why I warned you above. As you point out, COI isn't a reason for deletion, but it often makes it difficult to be objective. Problems with your draft were a spamlink in the intro, no proper refs just YouTube, social media and sales sites; also references in headings. I'm not sure whether it meets our notability criteria, so your text needs to include info that shows that. Your only external link should be your main website, no social media or YouTube Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:52, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I really appreciate all of your help (especially) and the help of other Wiki admins as well. I will use all of your comments, as well as studying and following all Wiki guides/guidelines, to make sure that the next article is done correctly. Nothing improper was done intentionally in the first one, however. For example, the way I was previously reading it the Wiki guides suggested that I should include a link in to the main website. But that was viewed as spam (because of the way it was pointed to) and the posted image should not have even been posted. So one didn't even have to get very far in to see that this page did not adhere to Wiki standards. I spent many days working on the first draft but obviously going in a direction that wasn't supported by Wiki.4thWeb (talk) 15:51, 18 August 2019 (UTC)