User talk:50.242.216.153

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Managing a conflict of interest
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 * Hi, I don't have a conflict of interest with anyone that I'm aware of, especially not Planet Aid. I work for a tech company based in Texas remotely from Maryland, and they don't have a wikipedia page. I had just read the news about this group, and went down a rabbit hole - reading the full court ruling and the related articles. Having read over this entry, I realized a few sources were opinion-based, so I was just adjusting them accordingly. Not sure why some of the edits were reversed. For example, the line, "CIR compared the case to Bollea v. Gawker, saying it was an attempt by deep pocketed individuals to use the courts to silence a media outlet" remains, but my addition "Since the ruling, the Washington Post and Columbia Journalism Review have compared the Center for Investigative Reporting lawsuit to the Smartmatic and Dominion Voting Systems lawsuits v. Fox News" was removed. The author for both the CJR article and the CIR article that made both comparisons is the same person. If it stands to reason that one should be there, then the other should as well. I'm also not sure I understand why the CharityWatch rating is in the summary, but the BBB/Charity Navigator entries are relegated to the section on Charitable Accountability. They are all specific to that section and not a summary of the organization. I use Charity Navigator and CharityWatch with my position to check the budgets and accountability of foster care organizations. CharityWatch is opinion-based and doesn't include any financial accountability, so anything they say on budget, especially in comparison to another nonprofit isn't factual. You can actually track the public spending of an organization with Charity Navigator, which is why I moved the opinion to the section on Charitable Accountability. Happy to let this go, just hoping for some reasoning within the wiki rules as to why one would be allowed and not the other. Thank you. 50.242.216.153 (talk) 13:01, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. The rationales for these edits were given in their respective edit summaries. Specifically, the opinion pieces in The Washington Post and Columbia Journalism Review that you cited represent the views of their author(s), not the publication. Your contention that the CharityWatch rating is opinion-based and doesn't include any financial accountability seems to be incorrect; regardless, their rating is covered in multiple independent sources, unlike Charity Navigator. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 20:16, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Your removing reliably sourced info about Goodwill as "obviously PR", while doing obvious PR yourself on behalf of Planet Aid, makes me doubt that you have no connection to the organization. Your statement about Goodwill's "financials" is exactly the kind of "opinion" you denigrated in other sources. Wikipedia is not for advertising or public relations, and I don't see any evidence that you are a reliable source on Goodwill's financial record. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 22:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I still fail to understand how Goodwill's expenditures (which are also public on GuideStar, like other orgs) is related to the organization at all. I work for a tech company called KaleidaCare out of Austin, if you want to look it up. As I said, I happened to go down a rabbit hole and the editing around articles and mentions of this organization on Wikipedia have some strong and obvious bias. I'm a former wiki mod÷ and I was just really surprised with how obviously manipulative these edits were. You can read all of the sources I've provided and see for yourself that the ratings claiming 11% are just inaccurate. There are multiple organizations that use the financials of Planet Aid that show 84%+ (depending on the year). If anything, I'd say the issues people have with the organization seem to solely relate to the money that they give to the NGOs, but those have nothing to do with IRS-classified operating expenses. I've worked for a lot of nonprofits, and even partnered with Goodwill in the past. The way they classify their expenses seems to be almost identical, like in the way they write off staff which most organizations don't do, but no one is adding mentions of how Planet Aid doesn't do that on their article. So, again, it seems very oddly biased and I don't get why. 206.198.248.212 (talk) 13:18, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If you are indeed a former wiki mod then you should know that we go by what published sources say, not users' original research. The quoted figure about Goodwill's charitable spending is directly contrasted with that of Planet Aid in the cited USA Today source. If you dispute the neutrality of any edits, you can take it to WP:NPOV/N. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Not Wikipedia, to be clear. Just a wiki. I'll make sure and do that in the future. 50.242.216.153 (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2021 (UTC)