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Great choice for topic! I am addressing antibiotic resistance in domestic animals :) I agree with 570kkl comments regarding using USDA resources to enhance your edits to the entry.  There are several websites that describe their action plan, antibiotic stewardship, etc. that you may find useful.  Looking forward to seeing the final version!  570hjm (talk) 17:48, 11 November 2017 (UTC)570hjm

I made a few punctuation, grammatical and tense changes within the article.-570smb

Hi- I agree with checking the grammar, etc- I didn't make direct edits given this is your rough draft, but be aware of those as well as words like effect vs affect.

Another good source for you to look at would be the USDA APHIS website as well as the FDA website. This is a very complicated topic from not only an explanation standpoint, but from a prescription standpoint in terms of when and how medications can be used and the labeling language, who can sell them, who can mix them, etc. If you need a good in person resource to help with clarfication- Mike Apley at K-State's vet school is on the governing board for this VFD document as well as a boarded veterinary pharmacologist- he knows this thing like the back of his hand- so anything he has written would be a good resource or could ask him for good resources to help with drafting your edits. He's usually very public responsive.

Otherwise- I'd be careful in using bold statements such as your opening statement essentially blaming livestock antimicrobial usage almost completely. I wouldn't argue that it's not a major player- but other health care entities as well as the people using and administering medications are also playing roles in creating resistance because of compliance, diagnostics/diagnoses, etc. Medications used in animals are the same as people- usually the direction down the conveyor belt in the plant dictates which label they get, they differ on strength, routes of administration and indication. Drugs that would be using for pneumonia in cattle, aren't always the first choice for pneumonia in people. They can be in the same class, but often if you look at sensitivity patterns in cattle- they aren't working on the bugs any more anyway- the resistance is much larger than humans- but there does need to be guidelines in place, to protect what little medical use they might have in any species.

570kkl (talk) 16:16, 6 November 2017 (UTC)570kkl

Very interesting selection. Is there a reason for the bolding on the page? Do you think it may be helpful to add headers for the sections you are adding or even subsections within the section? There are some grammatical things I would update, for example when you say “In 2014, the FDA begins working with the USDA”, I would update that to say “began” instead of “begins”. Is this entire section regarding antibiotic use for animals only? When I began reading it, I thought it was for both human and animals but it seems to be focused on animals. It would be good to clarify that whether that is in title headers or through the overall text. Is there more you could add to this section? It seems that there is likely a lot of research and work that went into determining the necessity of putting the VFD rule in place. I would reword this sentence as it is a little bulky and difficult to read “The effect of this act is by placing a requirement on an established veterinarian-client-patient relationship (VCPR) farmers will receive an increased education in the form of advice and guidance from their veterinarian.” Would you consider breaking it into 2 sentences? 570mna (talk) 19:33, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

One additional add, make sure to update your sources to work with the wikipedia formatting so that it creates the references section for you. 570mna (talk) 19:38, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Greetings- just to clarify, I believe that the portion that is bolded will be placed into the article itself, whereas, the non-bolded fonts are commentary to explain the choices. There perhaps should be an additional portion bolded, that would be the portion that begins with "antibiotics in livestock". Overall, the thread on antibiotic misuse relates well to some of the more recent topics that we have covered during the course. It would be fun to see an addition of information under the "Antibiotics in Livestock" area. Just in case you might be interested in adding some information under that area here is a link that will be very helpful and provide a lot of insight on just some of the overuse/misuse of antibiotics in livestock. http://consumersunion.org/news/the-overuse-of-antibiotics-in-food-animals-threatens-public-health-2/ Rebur (talk) 02:01, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

I think your points that you are adding to the topic are good. I have one small thought, and since you are quoting, maybe it was originally written this way, but your sentence: In the 1980’s antibiotics that were determined medically important could be approved under veterinary oversight, I was wondering approved for what? I'm not sure that this would be evident to the casual reader. 570rlg (talk) 20:32, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, the topic you chose is very interesting and timely for sure. Like others have mentioned, watch your grammar a bit. Also, there may be other website you can check out at further delve into the topic regarding the new rule and what kind of effects the enactment is having here in the U.S. Overall, good start! -570alp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 570alp (talk • contribs) 22:15, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, interesting choice of topic for sure. I would strongly suggest adding additional sources to your articles. I believe more content can be added to your second section update covering the effect of the VFD on the industry. 570bcs (talk) 00:40, 20 November 2017 (UTC) 570 bcs