User talk:58.110.242.231

May 2023
Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia pages, such as those you made to Kate McKinnon, even if you intend to fix them later. Your edits have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Felida97 (talk) 13:00, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Ojos Así, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Erick (talk) 15:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey Erick I noticed that you keep change the genre of the song 'Ojos asi' to Dance-pop. If you have ever even listened to the song it has a clear Arabic influence with instruments being used in the song that are associated with Arabic Pop music as well as having lyrics that are in Arabic. The Artist of the song Shakira tributed this song to her Lebanese heriatage and if you are not well versed in Geography Lebanon is in the Middle East. 58.110.242.231 (talk) 16:17, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Ojos Así, you may be blocked from editing. – jona  ✉ 16:11, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Ojos Así. EditingMatthew (talk) 16:12, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page:. PhilKnight (talk) 16:28, 28 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey PhilKnight I noticed that you blocked me from changing the genre of the song 'Ojos asi' to it's correct genre. If you have ever even listened to the song it has a clear Arabic influence with instruments being used in the song that are associated with Arabic Pop music as well as having lyrics that are in Arabic. You may call me a genre warrior but it is important that this song be labeled as Arabic Pop because the artist who released this song, Shakira tributed this song to her Lebanese heritage and if you are not well versed in Geography Lebanon is in the Northern Part of the Leventine which is in the Middle East. 58.110.242.231 (talk) 16:40, 28 May 2023 (UTC)


 * You replaced sourced content with your opinion. If you continue after the block expires, a longer block will be applied. PhilKnight (talk) 15:55, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It's not really my opinion the song was primarily written in the Phrygian Dominant Scale and the Arabic Maqam Scales. Most of Arabic Pop music are written in those scales. Also, the instrumentation of the song includes traditional Middle Eastern instruments, such as the Oud, Saz, Darbuka, and Doumbek accompanied with contemporary instruments such as Electric guitars and Keyboards which are also instruments used commonly in Arabic Pop Music. Yes, the song does have western influences, but the only western influence is really Rock because of the electric guitar which introduces a rock-infused element to the song. 58.110.242.231 (talk) 11:02, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is your opinion! Now you are unblocked, I warn you not to repeat the edit or I will block you for a longer period. PhilKnight (talk) 06:11, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @PhilKnight They did it again by adding original research and unreliable sources. Erick (talk) 14:13, 7 June 2023 (UTC)


 * They didn't just edit the genre back to their preferred version though. I am not inclined to block. PhilKnight (talk) 14:17, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thats not fair, I worked hard doing that analysis of that piece and all my research was reliable I cited the sheet music from musicnotes.com which is one of the most trustworthy digital sheet music company. I cited the Rolling Stone Magazine. I also cited the Dónde Están los Ladrones? CD liner notes which provided me with the credits so I could be accurate with the instrumentation (Also might I add that the Dónde Están los Ladrones? CD liner notes was the exact same source from the credits and personnel section). Also with the lyricism, anyone who knows middle eastern geography would understand the metaphors throughout the piece, also I cited Genius which is site that commonly praised for it's accurate annotations of song lyrics. Also, please read my analysis of the piece before you delete it, I worked really hard on that and as a musician I thoughout your 'Background and Composition' was more background information about the piece then real information about the composition. 58.110.242.231 (talk) 09:57, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @PhilKnight & @Magiciandude 58.110.242.231 (talk) 10:00, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Magiciandude I'll get rid of the lyricism part because you are obviously not literate in middle eastern geography which makes sense since you don't understand the metaphors that Shakira wrote in the song and also according to you genius.com is not one of them', but I'll keep everything else. I'm really trying to be willing here. 58.110.242.231 (talk) 10:12, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Magiciandude also how did I use original research I cited the sheet music and credits 58.110.242.231 (talk) 10:14, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Try citing reliable secondary sources instead. PhilKnight (talk) 13:15, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @PhilKhightThank you 58.110.242.231 (talk) 13:51, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @PhilKnight is sheet music not considered reliable? 58.110.242.231 (talk) 13:53, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I think sheet music is a primary source, but can still be reliable. PhilKnight (talk) 13:55, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

June 2023
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Ojos Así. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. – jona  ✉ 12:22, 8 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @AJona1992 hey I add sourced information on the 8th of June at 10:17 why did you undo it 58.110.242.231 (talk) 13:50, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * You added unsourced content: "song honorers Shakira's Lebanese heritage while foreshadowing the boundary-pushing, global-sounding Latin sound." The information you added is not supported by the given source. So no, you didn't "add sourced information". Best – jona  ✉ 14:11, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @AJona1992 Yes I did this was the link https://au.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/200-greatest-dance-songs-of-all-time-41563/shakira-ojos-asi-thunder-mix-1999-41611/ 58.110.242.231 (talk) 14:29, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, so you copied and paste word-for-word what the source said and added to the article, which is a copy violation. Rephrase it and use inline citations to attribute the source. Also, you didn't add the source above, you added the sentence to a ProQuest article that does not state that, which is why I undid your edit. – jona  ✉ 14:56, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * In addition to Jona said, you used Genius.com, which per this discussion is not a reliable source. Erick (talk) 15:26, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Fred Astaire. Binksternet (talk) 15:24, 29 June 2023 (UTC)