User talk:5m3mn0ch

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, 5m3mn0ch. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Note that if you are editing as part of your job or about colleagues, that is considered paid editing. 331dot (talk) 15:59, 22 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi I havent actually met Prof Ross, she is head of profession for the scientists in NHS Scotland in the same way as this lady Prof Hill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sue_Hill is chief scientific officer and head of profession for the scientists in england. I had assumed as Prof Ross has an international profile at least the same if not more than Prof Hill that she would have warranted a wiki page. I am not doing this as part of my job, I am a laboratory biomedical scientist in biochemistry in NHS Lothian in Scotland. I analyse HBA1C etc. My only motivation for developing this page was that she is an international scientist who in the last two years became chief scientist for scottish government, she recently spoke at an event about her leadership journey which i attend and wanted to learn more about her and her career and realised she didnt have a wiki profile. all my information and sources are from publicly available information as i have no other way of referencing this.
 * when i said "raise the profile" - clearly this was misconstrued, the scientific workforce in scotland have been instrumental in the COVID response as well as programmes such as the 100,000 genomes project yet there is nothing notable or written about the scottish participation and quite alot about the NHS England work, therefore i merely meant i was keen to ensure that our scientists of note were recognised, starting in government with Prof Ross.t is disappointing but I assume that this profile is not suitable for wiki so i will no longer provide any further edits. thank you for all you comments.
 * Robert 5m3mn0ch (talk) 17:30, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * We don't have profiles here, we have articles. To merit a Wikipedia article, a topic must already be recognized by independent reliable sources who then write about it. Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. If you are able to summarize what existing independent reliable sources say about a person and show how they meet the definition of a notable person, you may do so. 331dot (talk) 19:03, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you for the clarity, i had assumed what i was doing was collating the available information which i have gathered from national and international articles and summarising into this post. i havent added personal opinion just synthesised the evidence available from independant sources.
 * I have compared this persons profile to other similar people and i cant understand how this differs, Can you please advise.
 * I have listed some other people who also work in similar roles in scottish government and england
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Smith
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiona_McQueen
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Steedman
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_May_(nurse)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_McBride_(doctor)
 * I genuinely dont understand how my article differs from the evidence or notablity of the individual.
 * Thank you Robert 5m3mn0ch (talk) 20:14, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Beware in citing other articles that themselves might have problems that you would be unaware of. The best articles to use as a model or example are those classified as good articles.
 * That said, the additional sources you have added may work; I would just format the references(see Referencing for beginners) before submitting. 331dot (talk) 21:41, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you very much for your guidance, I will amend the references now and resubmit. at least as a scientists references are things i understand :)
 * This has been a steep learning curve, not sure ill do another wiki page but who knows.
 * Can i just confirm that almost all the references should be inline i.e with the number in brackets (1) is this more acceptable.
 * Do you think there is anything which i should remove from the post?
 * Thank you again for all your help and support.
 * Robert 5m3mn0ch (talk) 10:34, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, the references should be inline and if done correctly will appear with a notation.
 * I'm going to let others comment on your draft and refrain from further comment; when possible I like other views involved besides mine. 331dot (talk) 15:17, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

"raise the profile of our workforce" is a promotional purpose and not permitted on Wikipedia. Our only interest is in summarizing what independent reliable sources say about a topic. 331dot (talk) 16:05, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Catherine Ross (scientist) (November 2)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Johannes Maximilian was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 16:58, 2 November 2023 (UTC)