User talk:63.139.21.194

Advocare founder
I understand where you're coming from. He was never listed on any official NFL roster that we can find, but there are still two issues with your position that the information is false. First, there are at least two reliable sources that mention him with the Kansas City Chiefs. Your proposal to state he "tried out" implies he didn't make the team, and that would be a big assumption. It's possible he made the team, but was traded before playing in the first game of the season (this is likely, since the trade date was on or before August 28th according to the newspaper source I added, and you don't trade players that were cut from the team). What happened to him after the trade to the New York Jets is anyone's guess. Second, you need more than a primary source to show that the secondary sources are incorrect, especially when the primary source doesn't directly support your position. The absence of a name on a roster is an indirect way of supporting your position, and that can be considered borderline original research which is not permitted on Wikipedia. At the very least, you should start a discussion on the article's talk page before reverting again. Hope this helps. --GoneIn60 (talk) 04:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * I appreciate your feedback. I would point out that "playing for the KC Chiefs" would indicate actual playing, which, since regular season games did not begin in August, is logically impossible. He never played for the Chiefs, and being a camp player does not equal being a member of a team.


 * I worked for him, and so I admit, I have a bit of a bone to pick. AdvoCare is a pyramid scheme. Thanks for taking time to explain your position. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.139.21.194 (talk) 21:46, 12 July 2015 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Regardless of our experiences with a particular company, we shouldn't allow that to get in the way of editing in accordance with Wikipedia policies. We might be able to clarify that he was a member of the team instead of saying he played for them, but I disagree he was just a camp player. In order to have been officially traded, he had to belong to the team. Otherwise, there's no reason the NY Jets would have needed to give anything up to the Chiefs; they could have simply gone and got him themselves. --GoneIn60 (talk) 04:56, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

January 2016
Hello, I'm Oshwah. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Steve Hewitt seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:04, 23 January 2016 (UTC)