User talk:64.44.80.252

December 2020
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 * Edit re-done with different link URL. 64.44.80.252 (talk) 14:00, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

January 2021
Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Electrical wiring, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 12:30, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
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Damn
that sucks. Was there anything abusive going on? 64.44.80.252 (talk) 10:02, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm a big vague on what a "webhost" is, but ignoring that, the various references I see are confusing. You write above "it is not permitted", but the message I get on editing uses permissive language: "web hosts and colocation providers may be blocked". (And that text links to WP:Open proxies which doesn't mention the words "web host" or "colocation".) But the word "may" certainly seems to imply "might not" or otherwise subject to discretion, which is why I asked. Could I request you at least update the relevant documentation to be consistent and not confuse other people into making fruitless requests?

I think the message I'm referring to comes from Template:colocationwebhost. At least, it looks the same, although nothing in the HTML tells me whether I'm looking at a transclusion or an independent copy. 64.44.80.252 (talk) 17:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Please excuse my word choice, perhaps I should have said "generally" not permitted. As I said, if you need to use this webhost to access Wikipedia, you will need an account with an exemption. Webhosts are used by vandals and spammers to evade detection and blocking, which is why it isn't usually permitted to edit while using one. 331dot (talk) 19:27, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I know the computer I'm using is a pretty boring Windows desktop without a web server running on it, but I don't know much about the internet service it's connected to. I was just going by WP:Guide to appealing blocks trying to explain "that the block was not necessary to prevent damage or disruption" by looking at the edit history for the entire IP range.  (That's a cool feature I didn't know mediawiki had.)  I was skimming pretty fast but everything I saw appeared to be WP:HERE to build an encyclopedia. Ah! Found Special:Diff/906590056 and Special:Diff/991839207 which aren't.
 * So there is some vandalism problem. Would promising to patrol the entire IP range for bad edits (and ask for a block if I can't keep up) help make the block less necessary?  23:09, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * 2-day ping. 64.44.80.252 (talk) 05:44, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * As I said, it's about the webhost, not the edits. This IP ranges comes up as a Nexeon web host, and on their website they state they are a webhosting company. If they offer residential internet access services, please make an unblock request where you link to something where they offer such services. If you know nothing about Nexeon, you will need to communicate with whomever offers your internet access. 331dot (talk) 08:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Er... and the WP:Blocking policy which all the documentation on what I should do refers back to says that blocks should be used to "prevent imminent or continuing damage and disruption to Wikipedia" and a few other related things, and generally not for other purposes. And, per WP:Guide to appealing blocks, "Blocks are lifted if they are not (or no longer) necessary to prevent such damage or disruption," and blocks which are "not necessary to prevent damage or disruption" violate the blocking policy.  I'm trying to convincingly make that argument.  Disruption has historically been minor, and the rate is low enough that I can easily manually review all edits from the IP range.
 * Although there's a lot of WP space and I've hardly read it all, I haven't yet found any project page which says that webhost addresses should be blocked reflexively. So I'm petitioning for application of the policy that is written.
 * (I'm not looking forward to pestering my landlord about the details of the internet hookup. I could, I suppose, just get myself a cheap VPN...) 64.44.80.252 (talk) 12:03, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


 * My views are not the last word, you are welcome to make another unblock request to make the above case; if you convince another administrator to remove the block, they will. 331dot (talk) 13:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note that VPNs are also not generally permitted, unless you have an account and request an IP block exemption. Given your familiarity with policy language I get the sense you aren't completely new at this, but in any event it's out of my hands now. 331dot (talk) 13:22, 19 February 2021 (UTC)