User talk:68.183.197.160

February 2009
Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. --John (talk) 05:23, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The paragraph in question was blatantly POV, as stated in my edit summary. Do you actually dispute this?  E.g., why is the second word "catastrophic"?  In addition, the last sentence is garbled.


 * "Assert facts, including facts about opinions—but do not assert the opinions themselves."
 * Neutral_point_of_view 68.183.197.160 (talk) 06:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Fair point. I took out the word "catastrophic". I suggest in future raising your concerns in talk first. --John (talk) 07:08, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

That's good, but since when are edits only allowed after raising concerns in talk? The rest of the paragraph isn't that much better. For example, the Newsweek quotation, while on the face of it asserting a fact about an opinion, is not balanced with any contrary opinions, and, indeed, seems to be an attempt to sum up in a witty fashion what is being stated as fact in the rest of the paragraph. You also did not fix the mess at the end of the paragraph, which seems to belong to the previous paragraph. I will try to clean the whole thing up to show what I mean as well as improve the content.68.183.197.213 (talk) 18:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)