User talk:71.162.119.77

December 2019
Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Martin Seligman. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia.  Acroterion   (talk)   02:07, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
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The added statement was well supported. But I leave it up to you to put it back or leave it out. The best reference is Mayer's book (see below) and the publication of the US Senate report on the CIA detention interrogation program. One particular conclusion put the spotlight on Seligman and two other psychologists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.119.77 (talk • contribs)


 * I've removed your extensive copy/pasted copyright violations from this page - you can't copy source material into any part of Wikipedia like that. You are free to appropriately reference your previous additions, but the source material must draw an explicit link between Seligman and the assertions. I'm not going to do it for you. All material must be sourced, especially a contentious assertion like the one you inserted. Please read WP:BLP, WP:V and WP:RS, you can't just place things in articles without references.  Acroterion   (talk)   02:42, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I understand. My intention is to add knowledge and improve the sites, not to smear any colleagues. If you still disapprove of my addition, I won't make any further attempts to change it. But please know that this is still an ongoing and unresolved issue, see https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/us/politics/cia-torture-drawings.html?fbclid=IwAR1RO8s_UndyGvqlWJcBBDfCimYCf5WYaVU-5spZnf973QB3-7unzSVt8mk


 * You just need to reference things, that's all. If it involves - not really assertions, since Seligman wasn't directly involved as far as I can see, just his studies - I'll say linkage - then you should use multiple references. That's really the only issue here.  Acroterion   (talk)   03:01, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

This is my last post. Thanks for your patience and diligent work. Seligman was probably directly involved (at last based on Mayer). Mayer reported in her book that in December 2001, Seligman gave a three-hour presentation at the San Diego Naval Base (SEAR school) in May 2002, attended by CIA officials, Mitchell, and Jessen. Seligman was asked to advice the CIA about learned helplessness. I cited Mayer and wrote that he "might have been" involved.