User talk:71.191.8.218

Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Kristi Noem, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. InaMaka (talk) 06:49, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Farm Subsidy Controversy
It is well documented that Racota Valley Ranch (Kristi's ranch) has received $2,598,827 in farm subsidies since 1995. This is fact and as such is unbiased information. If you don't believe this should be a part of this page then please explain your logic. Otherwise the continued removal of this section will be reported to the admin page as persistent vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sodapaps (talk • contribs) 05:50, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Dear Sodapaps: You have written a highly biased section.  It is one-sided and it is a personal attack on a living person, which violates various Wikipedia rules.  You have been editing the article as a sockpuppet--changing IP addresses, etc.  You have removed factual information over and over again, e.g., the FACT that Noem is the Assistant Majority Leader and the citation for that FACT.  You editing is a combination of POV pushing, falsehoods, and removal of fully source relevant information.  If you want to edit the article feel free, but if you engage in edits that are POV pushing and violations of BLP, then I will revert your edits.  You are either a sockpuppet of an earlier editor and that is why you concealed your identity behind a series of IP addresses OR you are a new editor and you simply do not understand the rules of Wikipedia.  Now, let's get this straight one more time, an "alma mater" is simply a school where an individual attended--please read the Wikipedia definition of "alma mater" closely because for a school to be someone's alma mater they do not have to graduate.  That is a fact.  Now, you might not like that FACT, but it is not up to you to enforce your own POV on the article.  Please see the article on Bill Gates or hundreds of other people that have articles about them that did not graduate from various schools.  SDSU is Noem's alma mater and that is all there is to it.  Also, it is POV pushing to state that she is "a 38 year old college dropout."  That is a inherently biased comment and as such it will be edited or removed.  Please learn the rules of Wikipedia before you start to edit.--InaMaka (talk) 13:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

First off, I am not sockpuppet. I did create the original edits for the controversy portion as well as removing the "alma matter" section as it is misleading and biased in its own way. However, I was not signed in at the time so only my IP appears. Fortunately for me, others have stepped in to help revert your blatant vandalism of Kristi's page. The farm subsidies she has received are well documented facts and are not POV or biased. They are what they are. It's as if I said she was female, and you complained that that was POV. As of this moment, I am reverting the page back and keeping the Alma Matter section. Sodapaps (talk) 23:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * As I have stated over and over again on your various talk pages (both your current and your three IP address talk pages) and elsewhere, "alma mater" is a school where you attended and Wikipedia does NOT require that someone graduate from a school for it to be considered an alma mater. Once again, please review Bill Gates; he attended but did not graduate from Harvard University. Please review Sarah Palin; she attended several schools--and they are all listed in her bio--but she only graduated from one of them.  Also, I made changes to the article, based upon your concerns, that make it clear that Noem has attended SDSU but has not graduated--similar to the way that Gates' tenure at Harvard is treated in Wikipedia.  As to the farm subsisdy issue, you have written it in a POV pushing way and then you told me to edit it so that it isn't POV.  That's not the way that Wikipedia works. You are responsible for your edits.  If you want to add the farm subsisdy information and you find reliable sources to back up the information that you put in the article then it might be appropriate.  But the way that you wrote it and the sources that you used it was not appropriate according to the Wikipedia rules.  You MUST follow BLP, NPOV, and you must use reliable sources to back up whatever is place there.  Your addition did not do that.--InaMaka (talk) 01:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Once again, this is the first time we have discussed these issues. Further, I have never asked you to edit anything I have posted. Please stop inferring that I am someone else. All it does is lower your credibility. I am willing to allow the "alma mater" piece to stand, however misleading it may be. However, I will continue to push the issue of the farm subsidy controversy as it is fact. Most historical figures on Wikipedia have sections that list controversies. I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that this is against Wikipedia policy. I have even added a legitimate source as you have requested. Do what you may, but if you remove this section I will simply continue to add it back in.Sodapaps (talk) 18:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Wikipedia is a team project and you MUST follow the rules and since you are a new editor you should take the time to learn these rules.  POV pushing is not allowed.  Reliable sources MUST be used.  And it is NOT up to you to "allow" SDSU to be listed as her alma mater.  SDSU is her alma mater and you have no control over that fact and whether it be in the article.  Also, your own personal commentary is not allowed.  Also, since your editing has been what it has been it is not my credibility that is in question.  You were editing with personal commentary--with no reliable sources--you were removed reliably sourced notable info (the FACT that Noem's alma mater is SDSU).  You need to work on your credibility by simply learning the rules since you are a brand new editor.  You will not add back in anything that is not reliably sourced, that is POV pushing, that is personal attack on a living person (such as your additions where wrote "She is a college drop-out" over and over again).  Those types of edits will be removed.--InaMaka (talk) 21:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Please explain to me how the inclusion of the farm subsidy is POV? I have removed all "biased" citations and inserted a citation from a legitimate source. Also, I never put that she dropped out of college. You have now resorted to lying, which, once again, lowers your credibility. Also, I apologize. i was not signed in when I made the last edit. Oooo! Now you can claim I am 6 different people again!Sodapaps (talk) 02:16, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Once again, you should learn the rules of Wikipedia before you decide you are going to edit. It is clear that you don't know the rules based upon your editing activity and your questions about basic rules. When you put in the article that "she dropped out of college." You are violating several Wikipedia rules.  First of all, she has NOT dropped out of college.  She is currently attending SDSU therefore with your lie you violated BLP rules where you just simply made up a negative allegation and placed it in Wikipedia, i.e., you spoke ill of a living person.  With your lie you violated one of the pillars of Wikipedia which is write the articles with a neutral point of view.  You have been editing with 5 different IP addresses and you have been lying about that, claiming that there are several other editors that agree with you.  That is BS.  Who are these mythical editors??  Why doesn't this group of four editors have names and are registered?  Why??  You don't have a good answer for that question because you know and I know that all of those IP addresses were you and lied about how they belonged to others.  You aren't one to talk about anyone's credibility when you hide behind various IP addresses and lie about who they belong to.  You also have no room to discuss credibility since you flat out lied, several times, by editing the article and stating that she "dropped out of college."  She is in college right now, so you flat out lied.  Since she is in college you can't call her a "drop out" unless you are a liar.  Yeah, I know that I sound childish but apparently I have to get down to your immature level and explain your BS to you in the starkest terms since you either refuse to follow the rules or you mentally cannot understand the rules.  Also, about the farm subsidy info.  All of the comments that you placed in the article are your opinion.  You did not quote anyone.  It was all you.  You are a Wikipedian you don't have a right to express your opinion in the article.  That is why I will remove it all day long.  Remember if you revert three of more times in one day then you have violated the 3RR rule so don't do it.  If you want to personally attack the Kristi Noem because you don't like her politics go get a blog and do it there.  The Wikipedia article is no place for your BS opinions.  Learn the rules, nubie, and follow them, nubie.  Can you do that, nubie?????--InaMaka (talk) 13:51, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigations (SPI) on Sodapaps
Just so that you know, a sockpuppet investigation (SPI) has been opened. You can review it here: Sodapaps sockpuppet investigation--InaMaka (talk) 16:53, 26 June 2010 (UTC)