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Michelle Alexander repetitive edits and reversals
Please stop trying to add to the Michelle Alexander page with sources lacking a NPOV, ie: "in several publications of significance to the Jewish community," unless you wish to be reported and potentially blocked, as you have done this at least three times, if not more. Find more neutral sources and bring them to the page's connected TALK page. The item is worth adding, but not in a biased way. You are also operating against Wikipedia policy by adding what has been reversed as lacking a WP:NPOV. At this point, bring it to TALK first, and read the notes you have bypassed, then add your own. I know it must be frustrating, and I agree that there should be something on the page, but from at least two unbiased sources. Lindenfall (talk) 17:38, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Dear invisible wikipedia overseer: Ms. Alexander has been accused of bigotry by publications of significant standing in the Jewish community, and the publications I list include an article by Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz. These publications are no more or less biased (I would argue less) than the New York Times. Surely, if an African-American newspaper considered a Jewish public figure a bigot (same charge), it would be cited on wiki. Please do not silence the Jewish community. Please read the articles. You will find them as informed and balanced as Ms. Alexander's work. I await your reply.


 * As mentioned, I have looked at the articles, and thoroughly read the one by Dershowitz. I did not find sufficient unbiased opinions, but do not doubt in the existence of such — I thought that you, who is so interested, could invest more time in securing those, than I. Look further for neutral sources. They always exist for valid content. No one is trying to silence Jews (just ask my Jewish wife, whom I would not even try to silence on a bet). PS: It is ridiculous to call me invisible, and we are each overseers here. Opt for locating more sources other than Jewish publications, please. Dershowitz's thoughtful piece can be included, but with at least two publications that are neutral, which he, clearly, never has been on the subject.Lindenfall (talk) 18:45, 5 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Just to be clear, I would like to add a NPOV version this content, in accordance with WP:NPOV. Otherwise, someone just as visible as I will delete it at some point. Try for sources that will last in the long-run. Lindenfall (talk) 18:50, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Is the New York Times and its functionaries objective and Jewish publications biased by definition? This is, at best, a naive perspective that reinforces the power and privilege of the Times and Ms. Alexander. At its worst, you are censoring the Jewish community from responding to what many respected voices within that community consider to be bigotry. For you to command me to find similar criticisms of Alexander in non-Jewish publications is a way to marginalize criticisms of Alexander. As for threats to censor me from contributing to wikipedia, I can only hope that Wiki will consider actually opening the publication up to a variety of views. Is there a way that the page can have a section regarding the accusations?


 * I am not about to defend the NYT, and am not the bottom line on whether it's objective... not even the issue. Just take the time to locate reportage that meets WP:NPOV, and let the fantasy of requiring neutral sources as repressing Jews on WP go... just muddies the issue at hand. However, if you do wish to address WP about changing some policy, be my guest. I am not a decider of policy, have been in your position, and have also been frustrated. Invest your energy in acquiring more neutral sources and the information can be included. The rest is a WP:Soapbox (ie: Opinion pieces) waste of time better spent acquiring neutral sources. Lindenfall (talk) 19:50, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

The issue at hand is what is objective and who gets to decide. You have decided that Jewish publications are not objective. Likewise, you have decided that Ms. Alexander and the New York Times are above criticism on wikipedia from Jewish publications. I have protested and you have threatened to have me banned from wiki. Instead of censoring me, I implore you and the other invisible wizards of wiki to consider adding a section on the accusations, considering that they are just as richly analytical as The New York Times.


 * Actually, I am the third editor to reverse such additions, for lack of a WP:NPOV, as seen in the page's "View history" section. The topic is not being censored at all; the lack of neutral sources is cited each time. You read (above) very selectively. Discussion seems futile. Please invest yourself in the academics of acquiring some neutral sources rather than this pettiness. Lindenfall (talk) 21:34, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

That you are the third editor to censor me reflects the narrow ideological views of wiki's editors, which is very much at issue here. By removing links to publications critical of Michelle Alexander and the NY Times, you are censoring them and me as well. Claiming that critics of the bigotry of Ms. Alexander in the Jewish press are not neutral is an extension of the power and privilege you and Ms. Alexander have. The very idea that I need to find non-Jewish publications that will take on the Times for its bigotry against Jews is specious. Non-Jewish publications do not report on the topic. To call my attempt to meaningfully contribute to wikipedia "pettiness" is to absolutely misconstrue what is going on here. You are the censor preventing the criticism of a public figure affiliated with the most powerful media outlet on this planet. You are banning criticisms of her from the Jewish press. Understand your role in domination. Again, I will ask, if criticisms of her are somehow unfit for the lead paragraph, can an additional section be added regarding this as a controversy? A series of articles in various news outlets all alleging the same thing is a controversy.

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 * Please see the report at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Unless you promise to stop warring at Michelle Alexander, it seems likely you will be blocked. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:46, 6 February 2019 (UTC)