User talk:72-139-185-19

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I'm slightly concerned about this name, as WP:UN forbids: Well, it doesn't look like an IP address. It is an IP address. I don't know if that's acceptable or not.
 * Names that consist of random or apparently random sequences of letters and/or numbers
 * Names that look like an IP address, including "invalid" IP addresses (like xxx.xxx.xxx.xx.xx or xxx.xxx.xxx.xx.

Tyrenius 03:26, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Mind if I let AIV decide? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 05:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Why AIV? The account hasn't vandalised has it? Sarah Ewart (Talk) 05:07, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Due to the username. But fine, if this is a benign account, I'll let it go. -- Omicronpersei8
 * Nope. It hasn't done much of anything... -- 72.139.185.19 05:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * If it is considered an inappropriate account, the user should be asked to either request a rename at WP:CHU or to abandon this account since it has limited edits and start a new one. WP:AIV is not, AFAIK, an appropriate venue to take something like this. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 05:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The account was created so that I could post to semi-protected pages without confusing people as to who I was. Here's me posting anonymously... -- 72.139.185.19 05:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * And me posting non-anonymously. -- 72-139-185-19 05:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * As you can see, I'm not trying to fool anyone. It's just easier if my account is the same as the IP I normally post under. -- 72.139.185.19 05:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Nevertheless, it's important you not remove information posted on this page by other users. --Brat32 02:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't believe I ever have. 72.139.185.19 21:56, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Message
You missed out a crucial word or phrase. Tyrenius 05:36, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Do you object to the fact he started threads or the way he is dealing with the discussion? If the former, then it is quite legitimate. Indeed, I instituted the structure of the page primarily with his objections in mind. An editor is allowed to challenge material, ask for references or suggest that references have been incorrectly interpreted. Through this the article can only be improved. When I last looked, the points were being worked through to a resolution, and some had reached consensus, so I see that as a good thing. Tyrenius 05:40, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Are you saying he is being purposefully disruptive and that he is raising invalid objections, i.e. trolling, or just that he has an opposed, but legitimate, standpoint? Tyrenius 05:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

You are commenting on motivations. Let us look at actions and start by assuming good faith. You say some of his comments have the veneer of validity. Are you saying then that they are not valid? And what of the other comments? You will have to be more specific. Tyrenius 05:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * As I understand it, he is concerned that the article is over-balanced in favour of Ignatieff and fed from the campaign site, so he wishes to redress what he sees as an imbalance in NPOV. That is what we are in the process of examining. Have you read Implementation of policy? We are currently examining the article for statements which might not be properly verified from sources. It is necessary for editors from different viewpoints to work together, even when that can be difficult. Evidence of consistent POV pushing and unreasonable behaviour would be a different matter, but would have to be demonstrable. (Tyrenius - I forgot to sign)

By providing diffs showing consistently unreasonable behaviour. However, I would point out that I have drawn a line under previous incidents, and am starting from scratch with the current discussion.

To record a diff, find the edit in the edit history and copy the URL at the top of the page. Then put a square bracket either end, as in this example: 

Tyrenius 06:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * If you go to someone's user page and click "user contributions" in the bottom box on the left of the page, you will find a handy list. However, I would urge you to do your utmost to work constructively towards a resolution of any problems. Tyrenius 06:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)