User talk:72.53.46.198

October 2018
Hello, I'm Saucy. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Alexandre Boulay— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Thanks. Saucy[talk – contribs] 07:27, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
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Alexandre Boulay
Please discuss on talk:Alexandre Boulay per wp:BRD Jim1138 (talk) 07:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Alexandre Boulay. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Jim1138 (talk) 07:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Politicians
Please note that a defeated or retiring MNA's term in office does not end on election day; it ends the day the writ was dropped to start the election in which they retired or were defeated. Bearcat (talk) 04:18, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

You're wrong. The MNAs stay MNA until the election. Besides, August 29 is not the right day at all! Even assuming you're right (and you aren't), the writ was dropped on August 23, not August 29. August 29 is simply the wrong date under any standard.


 * If I made a mistake about the actual date of the writ drop, that's one very easily fixed minor thing — but I'm not incorrect about the way the law actually works when it comes to the end of a non-returning legislator's term in office. When the House of Commons or a provincial legislature is dissolved for an election, legally it has no members at all during the election campaign — it can't, because it's been dissolved. Obviously the building and the institution still exist, but there is no legally constituted legislature with the power to do anything, and the members cannot be called back to the capital to pass a law. It's not a job that's continuously held even through the election campaign — it's a job that is vacant during the election campaign, and the election campaign is the hiring process of deciding how to fill the vacancies.


 * Legally, in fact, it is true that even returning members are people who ceased to be MPs/MLAs/MNAs at the writ drop, and then became MPs again with the new election. Each election creates a completely new legislature, and all of the elected members do have to be sworn in as new members even if they were members of the previous one. They aren't even getting paid the M[P/LA/NA]'s salary during the election campaign. Now, that said, for article design purposes we don't bother to start a new office field in the infobox if a person gets reelected to the same office they held before the election — but that's because there's no value in making the infobox any longer than it has to be, not because they actually held the office continously through the election campaign. So if a person gets reelected to the same seat, we just leave it as one continuous office so that we're not overstacking the infobox — but when an office ends, whether that's because the M[P/LA/NA] retired, lost re-election or got redistributed to a new riding, then the end date of the office they no longer hold is the issuance of the writ. And there are lots of articles on Wikipedia where people have done wrong stuff, but other people haven't noticed it yet to fix it — so the fact that you can find some articles that aren't using the correct end date isn't proof that I'm wrong about what the correct end date is, it just means those other articles need to be fixed.


 * You can see WP:CANSTYLE for more information — but you can trust me, the editors who participated in hashing out our consensus are very highly knowledgeable about how election law works. A couple of them, in fact, actually worked for federal and provincial election offices, and thus are authorities on it. Bearcat (talk) 14:21, 25 September 2019 (UTC)