User talk:72.86.136.17

April 2020
Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for persistently making disruptive edits. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Drmies (talk) 00:57, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
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 * So you also blocked Drmies then? Because if I was guilty of edit warring for reverting his edit a single time, then he was guilty of edit warring for reverting my edits twice. But no, of course you didn't; administrators are always given a free pass at Wikipedia to indulge in any and all edit warring when they've decided to prevent "nobodies" for adding information that they don't personally care for.72.86.136.17 (talk) 03:11, 30 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Oh, and I already went back and reread the talk again. It turns out that the sole reason why Nigel Abe and Drmies kept reverting the edits that I and at least 2 other editors made to the page was that the first article cited had the term "ultranationalist" in the words quoted by an expert, rather than in the journalist's own voice; and when one editor responded by citing a different article in which the journalist himself used the term, that was illegitimate according to Nigel Abe because (incredibly enough) it was a different citation than the one they had objected to. In other words, plainly, these people I am legitimately complaining about are searching for a justification for refusing to permit the label "ultranationalist" to be added even though it is widely used by RS to describe this party. I could easily cite a long list of this news reports calling Brothers of Italy ultranationalist -- but if I did, then the same edit warriors would delete it because the citations were excessive. I'm not going to apologize for accurately describing what those people are doing to prevent accurate, reliably sourced information from being added to a far right political party's page. In fact, as I noted on the talk page, one of them insists that the party is neither far right nor can legitimately be called nationalist; he doesn't need RS or evidence because, as he says, he knows these things because he's Italian. This is just nonsense masquerading as upholding policy.72.86.136.17 (talk) 03:24, 30 April 2020 (UTC)