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CBT IS A CONFUSING TERM TODAY. SOME YEARS AGO WHEN YOU SAID "CBT" IT WAS UNDERSTOOD TO REFER TO THE WORK OF BECK AND/OR ELLIS. MOST LIKELY BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ANYBODY ELSE DOING IT. NO MORE. AS THE ARTICLE POINTS OUT "CBT" HAS BECOME AN " UMBRELLA TERM " WHICH ONLY SECONDARILY REFERS TO BECK. IT MAKES NO MENTION OF ELLIS AT ALL! ELLIS BEGAN HIS DEVELOPMENT YEARS BEFORE BECK; HAS PUBLISHED A NIAGARA OF BOOKS AND ARTICLES NOT LEAST OF WHICH IS THE GUIDE TO RATIONAL LIVING; TWO MILLION COPIES SOLD SO FAR. 2,000,000.THE ARTICLE RIGHTLY SAYS "CBT" IS NOW AN "UMBRELLA TERM" BUT GLIBLY PLODS ON WITHOUT TELLING US WHICH OF THE 5 TO PERHAPS 10 DISTINCTIVELY DIFFERENT FLAVORS ARE BEING DISCUSSED. ALL THREE "WAVES" SPANNING 65 YEARS ARE SUBSUMED UNDER ONE RUBRIC: CBT. THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT. ELLIS STOUTLY MAINTAINED THAT IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE SUSTAINED NEGATIVE EMOTIONS WITHOUT THOUGHT (IRRATIONAL BELIEFS) AND THAT THESE HAVE TO BE CHANGED. NOT SO MINDFULNESS. THESE FOLKS MAINTAIN THAT THESE BELIEFS DONT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE CHANGED MERELY OBSERVED. AGAIN;ELLIS WAS NOT ENTHUSIASTIC AT ALL ABOUT BUDDHISM.HE REFEREED TO IT AS "THROWING OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATH WATER". MINDFULNESS MAINTAINS (MISTAKENLY) THAT IT USES SIGNIFICANT ELEMENTS OF THE BUDDHA'S IDEAS. T. D. SUZUKI, ALLEN WATTS AND CHRISTMAS HUMPHREYS WOULD NOT APPROVE OF MINDFULLNESS' ARROGATION OF THE ENLIGHTENED ONES NOTIONS

THE ARTICLE IS A MESS AND WOULD BEST BE COMPLETELY REWORKED.