User talk:75.161.125.73

September 2020
Hello, I'm Motevets. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Carter Caves State Resort Park have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia.   — motevets (talk) 18:57, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Hi Motevets, I'm not sure why my change was reverted. I had taken out that Carter Caves has a 9-hole golf course. I took this out because they no longer have this course, it was turned into to a walking trail ("The Mulligan Trail"). I know this because I have worked there for four years. Thanks, Carly


 * Hey Carly the removal of the 9-hole golf course is fine, and I've gone ahead and removed it from the article and cited it with a source that points to the KY Parks website. The problematic phrase in your edit was "cave tours are entertaining and educational." It comes off as promotional because it is not an objective fact, but rather an opinion in favour of the park. It's fine to mention the cave tours themselves, just try to avoid verbiage that could be viewed as non-objective, non-neutral, or promotional.
 * I also recommend creating an account, so that we can help you hone your skills as a contributor no matter what computer you're posting from. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. — motevets (talk) 19:28, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Materialscientist (talk) 18:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't say I significantly changed anything. As I stated in my last reply on this talk page, I have worked there for multiple years and was employed there at the time of change from a golf-course to a walking trail. However, the following are websites that verify what I have stated, https://parks.ky.gov/olive-hill/parks/resort/carter-caves-state-resort-park/trails, https://www.kentuckygolf.com/golfcourses/coursedetail.cfm?recordid=2532, https://www.dailyindependent.com/news/carter-caves-golf-course-to-close/article_2754ec94-10d7-11e7-8b33-f76d6c8d1a41.html.
 * Thanks, Carly
 * Hey Carly whenever adding any new facts, we encourage the contributor to provide a source. If you'd like help you can either visit WP:CITE or the Teahouse where experienced editors help new ones. We also try to make sure the things we put in the article are notable. In this case the closing of the golf course into a hiking trail is probably not notable for an encyclopedia, but making the correction to remove it from the list of amenities for correction is fine. I see that you tried to do that in an earlier edit, but it was reverted because it also had promotional language (see my reply above.) Also, again be careful of promotional language such as "it is muddy, wet and down-right amazing." I hope you stick around and keep contributing. Let me know if I can be of any more help. — motevets (talk) 19:37, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * One more thought: it may be helpful to read about what Wikipedia is not, specifically around why we try to avoid writing articles that read like travel guides. If you are interested in providing that kind of content, we would love your help at our partner project, Wikivoyage. — motevets (talk) 19:43, 23 September 2020 (UTC)