User talk:76.10.140.101

November 2020
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Global Television Network, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. CycloneYoris talk! 15:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Going back to actual archived media coverage from 1973-74, I have not been able to find any indication that OECA ever had an agreement with Global to broadcast educational programming on the Global stations — the only source I've ever found which says anything at all indicates that an agreement was sought but did not succeed. Even the TV listings grids from the Toronto Star and the Toronto edition of The Globe and Mail from 1974 simply don't show any daytime educational programming airing on channels 6 or 22 — they show some OECA programming airing on 3/5 (as in CKVR and CBLT, as in the CBC), but not on Global. So if it's actually true, then you need to find and show a much better source than what an unreliable blog said about it 40+ years later, because I'm not finding any sources from that time which support the claim. Bearcat (talk) 15:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * As I noted already, the TV listings grids from 1974 fail to show any evidence of Global ever airing any OECA programming. It doesn't matter whether the deal never came together, or was reached but then rescinded, because either way the end result is still that the programming never happened, so either way our article has to say that the programming never happened, and cannot simply imply otherwise by omission. Bearcat (talk) 16:26, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have checked the tv listings and you are correct - however the source you cite from *1972* only says there was a proposal, it doesn't say what came of it which isn't a surprise since the source is from 1972 and not 1974. 76.10.140.101 (talk) 16:29, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Have you ever tried to find sources which explicitly stated that something didn't happen? Sources aren't going to go out of their way to mention every possible fact that didn't happen — lots of things haven't happened, without needing sources to affirmatively state that they didn't happen. Global also never aired any Japanese-language programming acquired from Japanese television networks, its newscasts were never anchored by William Shakespeare or Nelson Mandela, it never merged with the BBC to form a transnational network, it never produced a series called Karaoke Stars of North Battleford, it never changed its name to The Wiffleball Channel, and on and so forth. All things that didn't happen, without any source making a point of saying they didn't happen because there was no reason why they would need to. Which is precisely we don't need sources to say those things didn't happen, the fact that we can't find any sources which prove that they did happen is in and of itself proof that they didn't. Bearcat (talk) 16:56, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The point is you are misattributing the information to a source that does not say what you are attributing to it. "Have you ever tried to find sources which explicitly stated that something didn't happen?" - how does that justify misattributing information to a source?
 * Firstly, I'm fascinated by your responsibility-free interpretation of events: you tried to claim, without evidence, that the information was simply false, revert-warred over it several times without ever showing a valid source, and then shifted to warring over a semantic distinction that wasn't even relevant to the issue at all, and yet I'm the bad guy for simply copy-pasting the wrong footnote by simple accident? No, not what's happening here.
 * Secondly, Wikipedia does not have a rule against using swear words. You may think it should, but it doesn't, so using one is (a) not a thing I have a responsibility to have avoided in the first place, (b) not a thing I have a responsibility to apologize for now, and (c) not a thing that would constitute a valid or actionable complaint that would get me sanctioned or punished, because we simply do not have any rule that swear words are disallowed.
 * Thirdly, I'm done engaging with you any further on this. Bearcat (talk) 17:19, 16 November 2020 (UTC)