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This is the final warning you will receive regarding your disruptive edits. The next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did to Curse and mark of Cain, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. ''Read the Reliable Sources Guidelines. You do NOT have ANY sources, what you have been deleting does have sources.'' You are only being disruptive and unhelpful, leave wikipedia alone if you don't want to follow the rules.  We do not care what you think about the Bible, we don't care what you think is "right,"  Ian.thomson (talk) 23:05, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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May 2010
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week to prevent further disruption caused by your engagement in an edit war. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text <!-- There is no scholarly consensus as to the original meaning and significance of the curse and mark of Cain. Because the name Cain (or qayin in Hebrew, meaning spear), is identical with the name Kenite (also qayin in Hebrew), some scholars speculate that the curse of Cain may have arisen as a condemnation of the Kenites. In the Bible, however, the Kenites are generally described favorably, and may have had an important influence on the early Hebrew religion.

There is also no clear consensus as to what Cain's mark would be. The word translated as "mark" in Gen. 4:15 is  'owth, which could mean a sign, an omen, a warning, or a remembrance. In the Torah, the same word is used to describe the stars as signs or omens, the rainbow as the sign of the flood (Gen. 9:12), circumcision as a token of God's covenant with Abraham, and the miracles performed by Moses before the Pharaoh. Thus, the text of the Bible only explicitly describes how the mark was to function as a sign or warning, not what form the mark took.

Cain's curse and mark have been interpreted in several ways. Following the literal Biblical text, most scholars interpret the "curse" as Cain's inability to cultivate crops and his necessity to lead a nomadic lifestyle. They interpret the "mark" as a warning to others, but are unable to determine the form of the mark from the Biblical text.

Historically, some Christians have interpreted the Biblical passages so that the "mark" is thought to be part of the "curse". In 18th century America and Europe, it was commonly assumed that Cain's "mark" was black skin, and that Cain's descendants were black and still under Cain's curse. While the majority, if not all, of Cain's descendants would have been killed in the great flood, Latter-day Saints from the late 19th to mid 20th century believed that Cain's bloodline was preserved on the ark through Egyptus, wife of Ham (son of Noah). The Book of Abraham, accepted by Latter-day Saints as part of their canon, is the source of the story of this Egyptus who preserves "the curse.... as pertaining to the Priesthood" by surviving the flood as Ham's wife. One must note, however, that in this canonized source no connection is made between her and Cain (her lineage is not given), nor is anything mentioned concerning her skin color. Thus, though Latter-day Saints combined the widespread belief that Cain's curse was a blackness of skin with another idea common in Europe and America (that the curse of Ham for seeing his father's nakedness was black skin), the idea that Ham's wife preserved a curse of black skin inherited from Cain that was passed on is not canonized doctrine.

The interpretation that black people were the descendants of Cain does, however, hold a certain amount of sound reasoning behind it. The curse put onto Cain makes him to be a fruitless farmer and a wandering nomad on the Earth. In Gen. 4:17 it states that Cain has built the city of Enoch. From this we can assume that God has lifted Cain's curse, for him building a city contradicts the curse. However, it does not imply that the mark has been removed. This provides us with a situation where one who bears Cain's mark is no longer of a lesser lineage, or of a more shameful existence. The mark should also be a mark for which any man could immediately recognize him as a Caininite. For this to be so, it would have to be extremely obvious, even at a considerable distance (or else they could be killed by bow fire without the aggressor realizing their lineage). One of the only features that fulfills such a requirement is black skin color (because at a distance the others colors could be mistaken as one of the same).

The general black African race has largely been and is partially today a wandering nomadic people. While the curse had been lifted, and they are not required to live nomadically, a large portion would have to, and probably would continue to after its lift for the sake of tradition.

The sum of the biblical word provides us with an equation that is most fully equaled by the mark of Cain being black skin. Some will tell you it is racist to think so, but when you fully examine the text, it shows that it does not make the black people any more inferior, as we can discern that, through the presumed centuries of Cain's life, the curse was lifted. --> below. Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 23:09, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
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June 2010
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